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Gareth Pickering
I love to discuss how awakening and so so societal conditioning allow us to consciously design our lives. That was what I read on your intake form, bro. And I would love to hear what you mean by societal conditioning and design our lives. so
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Christopher
Yeah. we you know part of Part of being in the human body is that you know we come here, we arrive here, we're we're brought into this world through you know through the mother, through the through our parents.
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Christopher
And for the first many years, you're completely useless. You're completely you're completely dependent on on the support of your family. Even the idea that for all intents and purposes, your family, your parents are God to you.
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Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
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Christopher
Without them, you die. Without them, you starve. and in order for them to prepare you for this world, even though I believe that we are infinite beings that have had many lifetimes and different places of of all this magic, wisdom, and experience, in this body, you need to start over again.
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Christopher
And so that means you need to learn how to walk. We need to learn how to eat, we need to learn how to have conversations, speak the languages that you chose. There's all these different things that we need to learn.
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Christopher
And the way that we do it, the way the human body, the human mind does it is through mimicry. we We observe and we receive all of this information, all of this data. And it's like the old expression, monkey see, monkey do.
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Christopher
And we really are these funny little mammals that we're just copying everything.
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Gareth Pickering
Yeah.
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Christopher
And so we we walk into this world, well, I mean, we we like crawl into this world and then walk and our society conditions us.
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Christopher
We are given these agreements, you know, as the book, The Four Agreements talks about, Nobody, you know, you didn't choose English or whatever your native language was.
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Christopher
it was It was chosen for you, essentially. And then, okay, well, that's a table. That's a chair. Okay, well, that's a man. That's a woman. That's right. That's wrong. And these are all things that we need in order to just get by in this world.
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Christopher
And there's also a lot of other agreements that we come upon, which is, you know, the roles of men and women in society. What is justice? ah What is, you know, what is right and wrong? What is God?
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Christopher
You know, does God even exist? And at some point in time, i believe all of us have the gift of ah really hitting up against the edges of this this rigid container, this definition that's created for us.
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Christopher
And that's where we that's where we have an option, which is either to stay in that box, which a lot of people do.
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Christopher
And and ah there's nothing right or wrong about that. That's just a ah judgment concept that exists in the human mind. But there's many of us that choose something different.
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Christopher
And oftentimes that choice, the reason that we awaken, at least it was for me, was because Well, my life got really uncomfortable. ah the The agreements that I had come upon, you know, hey, climb the corporate ladder, you know, get a job, get married, all those things.
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Christopher
At some point in time, I was just depressed and I was reaching out to all these different substances. And so for me, my awakening was a deep down feeling of dissatisfaction.
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Christopher
that I did my best for a long time to numb.
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Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
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Christopher
And so, you know, these these conditions that we're born into are such tremendous gifts because if we actually listen to how we feel, our body, the thought patterns that are expressing in our mind and and not reject them, which is what generally most people get taught to do, it's another part of the social conditioning.
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Christopher
then we'll actually find that, no, this isn't for me, right? It's like going to a restaurant and sitting down and and trying some of the food and going, well, you know, this is nice and I love that you brought me here. this is I'm glad that you like this, but i just it doesn't taste good to me.
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Christopher
And if somebody asks why and you go, I don't know, it just doesn't taste good.
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Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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Christopher
right? Most people sit at the same table and eat the same meal that they hate over and over again for no other reason than because society says so. But I feel like this is a tremendous gift because it awakens within us discomfort.
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Christopher
And because the human tends to want to move away from discomfort, we might actually move towards something greater, our our true purpose, our, our mission, our Dharma, whatever that might be. So, um,
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Christopher
The cool thing about that is that a lot of us, I feel, were born into families where we were going to feel very uncomfortable for most of our lives. I don't know about you, probably many of the people that are listening to this, that you're even listening to this podcast right now means that you at some level felt very uncomfortable with whatever was given to you.
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Christopher
So that means that you came into this family, this society, but you came here to be a change maker. You came here to go, that doesn't feel right to me. That doesn't feel right in my body. doesn't feel right in my heart.
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Christopher
I'm going to try something different. And that is ah as a gift when we can allow ourselves to to to honor it, which I will say that I spent a good portion of my life completely disregarding it.
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Gareth Pickering
So much in that, bro. Yeah, I just want to honor that to that recognition of what creates our reality is essentially these belief systems. And these belief systems are really just a function of stories that we've been told over and over again by our caregivers initially, and then we went into some sort of education system where we're told exactly, you know, this is how the world works. This is the shape of our planet. This is where we are in the solar system.
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Gareth Pickering
You know, and we start to take these beliefs on. And at some level, it's ah it's a survival strategy as a young person. But as we start to mature, it's our responsibility to recognize those uncomfortable feelings, not as some sort of problem that we don't want to feel but rather as important data that's pointing us in a different direction my languaging is really around some sort of soul recognition i've been through that uncomfortable part of my life in johannesburg which looked like building a business that that was working in the advertising space and making money but the uncomfortable feeling that i sat with for a large part of that was
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Gareth Pickering
a very soft voice with a very loud, constructive consensus reality around me that this is how it is, bro. if I can get used to it, you know, this is the thing, you know, you're on the right track, your business is making money, you're employing people, just keep flowing and going. But that voice started to get louder. And as I reflect back on my journey, there's the sense that I feel like my soul came for something bigger than this.
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Gareth Pickering
You know, the part of me that's like, I should be doing something else. You described it as like wanting to step out of this and to evolve into something else. And yeah, I think I chose the family in the world that I came into so that I could have this some sort of awakening around this. and I'm so grateful that I took the opportunity to sit with that and to listen to that voice. And as you said, people listening to this podcast, we have it from time to time. And if you're feeling that right now, just give yourself the space to listen because it's not a it's not a problem. it's It's data that's that's pointing you in ah in a potentially new direction.
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Christopher
Yeah.
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Gareth Pickering
What I want to ask you on this is the second part of your statement says that allow us to consciously design our lives. So, okay, we get this. We have this uncomfortable feeling. Now what? what What's the conscious design in in the in the statement?
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Christopher
Yeah, beautiful. So when we, you know, 95% of what we do, 95% of our behaviors, 95% of everything that's happening in our reality, in our body, in our mind,
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Christopher
is is the domain of the subconscious or the unconscious mind, right? So subconscious below conscious perception, unconscious, what we are not conscious of, what we are not aware of consciously.
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Christopher
And so if we think about 95% of what we're doing, our behaviors, our actions is not something that we are aware of, we When you hear that, you need to start thinking, well, there's an opportunity for me to tap in here because if 95% of my behaviors, I'm not actually consciously choosing, then maybe maybe I need to get in touch with that.
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Gareth Pickering
Thank you.
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Christopher
People seem to think that they are the the driver of their own car. If you just imagine yourself as the driver of the automobile, the automobile is your body. and you're driving through life, through the cities, through the highways, through the countryside, we we all seem to think that we're the driver, right?
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Christopher
I make the decisions, I'm gonna turn left here, I'm gonna turn right here. Really, when you when you reflect on it and you think, well, 95% of what's happening, I'm not actually aware of, I would actually say at best, you're the front passenger seat.
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Christopher
You're not the driver, at best.
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Gareth Pickering
at best yeah you might even be a spare wheel in the back not even looking at the road
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Christopher
Well, and and it but the thing is, is most people might feel a little defeated by that because they think, well, for example, you know, I've i've helped many people quit smoking cannabis, cigarette, vaping, all that stuff. And I use techniques where they can do it in one session.
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Christopher
And it's really powerful. Why weren't they able to do it before? It's not because of willpower. It's not because of their conscious will or even their their spiritual will. If willpower was enough, 80% of the people that smoke wouldn't smoke. I mean, studies have shown that they actually don't want to smoke.
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Christopher
if you know Pharmaceutical companies know this. That's why they create the drugs that they do. That's why they market the products that they do. But if you if if just wanting it was enough, they wouldn't be out there picking up a cigarette right after their meal. They wouldn't have that immediate response because
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Gareth Pickering
Right.
00:10:08.67
Christopher
they're They're stuck as the, you know, the car's got its GPS system. It's running its automatic processes. And thank goodness, because if you had to, while we're sitting here talking, think about beating your heart or think about healing damaged cells in your body or or think about every single breath.
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Christopher
It's interesting because the breath actually is ah on the border between we can be consciously aware of our breath and and also we can just pass out and our body's still going to breathe. Right. It's a beautiful thing.
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Gareth Pickering
rat
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Christopher
um So what I think is really interesting is that we are noticing that there's a lot of opportunities for us to, there's a lot of opportunities for us to be designing our life because if we're running into things that don't work, if for running to experiences that are aren't actually satisfying us,
00:11:01.33
Christopher
then instead of just continuing to run into the same obstacles over and over again, what we can do is get into the design of the GPS of the car, the software of the computer, the applications that are installed on the phone and start to rewrite them.
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Christopher
And then we can can sit freely back in the backseat and enjoy the ride. I think most of us probably go through our lives so much trying to control everything, trying to create, um,
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Christopher
changes, trying to make things better when really what we're designed to do is to sit back, set the destination, put our hands up, relax and enjoy the view.
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Christopher
But that is definitely not what most of us are doing.
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Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
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Christopher
And so the the conscious design thing is to go take all that data that you said, all that data that we're getting through the emotions, the feelings, the discomfort, the dissatisfaction, get into the unconscious mind rewire and reprogram. And we're still very clearly saying, look, I want to go here.
00:12:05.76
Christopher
This is where I want to go. And I'm going to set my destination. But stop trying so hard and allow the car to drive for you. I mean, people are so afraid of automatic driving cars, but I will tell you that the statistics are very clear that humans suck at driving cars.
00:12:23.01
Christopher
Like, thank God actually that the unconscious mind is so good at what it does. The other day I was totally doing a modern day, ah you know, what's a modern day challenge for most people. is I was texting and looking at something while driving and a flash of the stop sign came up and I slammed on the brakes just in time.
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Christopher
But I didn't look out at the street and go, is there a stop sign up there? No, it showed up. There was an acute program, this initiator, this trigger of a program that was in me saying, you got to put your foot on the brake, otherwise we could die.
00:12:55.80
Christopher
And thank goodness that happened because I could have ran straight into a truck. Fortunately, the system is designed knowing that you are generally unconscious when you're driving, and that's why the bright colors the signs, the you know signs with shapes and pictures instead of words, the rumble strips on the ground, those are all there to trigger unconscious processes.
00:13:11.99
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
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Christopher
But if we can redesign that, we can make sure that you know if we have a goal that we set, well, I want to live with this much money coming in every day, you don't have to try so hard.
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Christopher
You just set the set the program. And then all of a sudden, somebody is going to walk by and your unconscious mind will sense, will know that they are an opportunity, that they're somebody who needs the service or support that you provide.
00:13:40.57
Christopher
And then all of a sudden, you'll be automatically drawn to them. You're like, oh, my God, that T-shirt's really cool. I feel like I have to talk to this person. And before you know it, you're halfway into a sales pitch and none of that was conscious. It was all absolutely automatic.
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Gareth Pickering
And you don't have access to that until you're choosing to let go of some of the beliefs that you have, that the goal of money that you want in your life is maybe too much, because that belief would perhaps leave you close to that opportunity, right? There's some underlying frequency that's happening in your reality that's based on this underlying program, which is essentially built into the beliefs that we have.
00:14:16.00
Gareth Pickering
That's what you're saying, right?
00:14:16.66
Christopher
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, there there is a, there's an understanding that, I'll put it but it like this, your your body, your mind wants efficiency, right? It's going to take the most efficient route and it's going to take the route that it knows is not going to cause you to die. The the number one program, the number one, and let's call it we call it the prime directive of the unconscious mind is to keep you alive.
00:14:44.39
Christopher
So if the prime directive is to keep you alive, let's say that you grew up in a household where, so you grew up in a household where your father came home, was barely ever home, was working all day long.
00:14:58.31
Christopher
He always came home and he talked about this this mysterious thing called money. And whenever he talked about money, he was this sweet, innocent little child who was very sensitive, who who could feel all of the energy around him.
00:15:11.79
Christopher
who could understand the slight shifts in and in facial expression, the the tone and the and and the cadence of speech and the body posture, and knew that your father was coming home.
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Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:15:23.62
Christopher
And when as soon as he started talking about money, he was stressed. And as soon as he was stressed out, he wasn't spending time with you, which if he wasn't spending time with you, then you meant nothing. You were meaningless and potentially you were in danger.
00:15:37.31
Christopher
Well, so you grew up in this household where money then in your mind equated stress, which it created danger. Then over time, europe your mind is going to say, well, we need to do everything in our and are possibility and our power to get rid of money Because we're always talking about money and money made my father not be home.
00:16:00.17
Christopher
Money made my father not pay attention to me. So I don't want to do that. I don't want to experience that. Then I must get rid of money in my life. And we see this over and over again with people who get a new job. They finally get that promotion. They finally get that extra money coming in.
00:16:15.33
Christopher
Maybe they even get a little lottery ticket or like my experience in 2021, where I had some crypto investments that I was intuitively guided to. blew up and all of a sudden I had like $150,000.
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Christopher
hundred and fifty thousand dollars It took me less than a year to blow through all of that money because i had a story. That story was essentially that money's hard, money's stressful, money's painful.
00:16:40.84
Christopher
And then my unconscious mind took the actions. ah I was drawn to people, excited to create business ventures and collaborations with people with the intention of expanding my money.
00:16:52.86
Christopher
And then guess what happened? Well, I invested in a partnership where it was doomed to fail. I invested in a product that I was never gonna follow through with. So that program was always running because my unconscious mind goes, no no no, no, no, this is not safe. We have to get this money out of our lives.
00:17:08.93
Christopher
The sooner we get it out of our hands, the better. And that's why we see things like the you know the the millionaires that's went through lottery tickets and they never they never can hold onto their money because Because they didn't become a millionaire first. They were still living in a poverty mindset. They were still living with the beliefs.
00:17:29.58
Christopher
Which is nothing more than a then ah then ah ah truth for you. it's It's a thought you've taken as true. And because you've taken it as true, your operating system goes, well, we need to check all of the experiences that are happening around us.
00:17:36.96
Gareth Pickering
Yes. Right.
00:17:44.83
Christopher
And we need to filter out the junk. Because this conscious mind can only handle so much. re We're talking about
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Gareth Pickering
right
00:17:51.92
Christopher
you know If if i were to if i were to say to you, okay, there's 100% of reality around you, and your conscious mind is only getting a fraction of that, your unconscious mind gets it all through your senses. It has to. It needs to have all that data in order to flitch, twitch, respond, run away, be scared, whatever.
00:18:11.32
Christopher
What percentage do you think that you're getting of that 100%?
00:18:15.62
Gareth Pickering
consciously?
00:18:16.96
Christopher
Yeah, kind to your conscious mind. what kind How much data do you think you're getting out of that 100% so that you can navigate life consciously?
00:18:25.23
Gareth Pickering
I think it's the similar number to what you're talking about before. It's got to be less than 5% because there's just too much stuff going and on that I wouldn't be able to process. I'm on a conversation with you. There's windows around me. There's so much stuff going on. But if I can't let that stuff go, there's no ways I can be present. So I don't know the number, but I guess it's low.
00:18:44.46
Christopher
Yeah, i was a you're it's even lower than 5%.
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Gareth Pickering
I would think you're 1%, maybe even less, yeah.
00:18:47.78
Christopher
So it's one one thousandth of a percent.
00:18:49.07
Gareth Pickering
Uh-huh.
00:18:53.79
Christopher
Okay, so so if you're if if you're getting one one thousandth of a percent of the data, like for example, um theres so much information is not relevant.
00:19:05.63
Christopher
Right now, if I say to you, hey, what does it feel like to have your shirt draping upon your shoulders? Right. All of a sudden, you probably can feel, oh, yeah, I've got this material on me. But it probably wasn't in your awareness before because it just didn't need to be.
00:19:19.40
Christopher
It wasn't urgent, right?
00:19:20.03
Gareth Pickering
Right. Right. Right.
00:19:21.33
Christopher
Your body knows it's there. your Your unconscious mind is aware that it's there. Now, until I said to you, hey, you need to pay attention to this, just think about that in the sense of, well, let's say you wanted to make money.
00:19:35.23
Christopher
and So you wanted to make $100,000 this year. Cool. It's a fantastic goal. Now, if you believe that money is bad and painful and causes distress in your family and the like, well then, if you were to walk into, let's say, a business meeting and there's 20 people there and you're pitching a presentation to offer a consulting service,
00:20:03.90
Christopher
Now, out of those 20 people, let's say five of those people are ready to buy. They're inspired by you. They need exactly what you're offering.
00:20:13.04
Christopher
If you are only getting a thousandth of a percent of what's coming in and your mind is gonna orient you towards your beliefs, not necessarily your goals right away, but to towards your beliefs, then after the meeting breaks and everybody walks and we're all shaking hands, if you believe that money is dangerous,
00:20:20.97
Gareth Pickering
Yep.
00:20:33.48
Christopher
I guarantee you that those five people, you're not going to see them. Your unconscious mind will not present them to you because it conflicts with your reality. Because if I were to walk over to you and say, let's sign a contract, here's a check right now for $20,000, your unconscious mind would know that you're in danger.
00:20:53.11
Christopher
So chances are that you're...
00:20:52.89
Gareth Pickering
Some sense of not being safe because this is what happened with my dad. This is the same story that I've confirmed in my life the whole way through. Yeah.
00:20:59.05
Christopher
Exactly. And then so what happens is for all intents and purposes, in your reality, those people don't exist. But for some reason, you're going to be strangely attracted to the people that are going to reject you.
00:21:06.05
Gareth Pickering
They filtered out.
00:21:10.90
Christopher
Especially if you have some serious rejection wounds. Not because your your body and your mind is cruel. People will often think that their subconscious mind is is like, oh man, this is so this is so messed up. it's it's It's setting me up for failure. No, actually, if anything,
00:21:25.47
Christopher
It's creating all these uncomfortable situations so that you can consciously choose to change the settings. Because the unconscious mind can't change its own programs.
00:21:36.08
Christopher
Only your conscious mind can do that.
00:21:38.88
Gareth Pickering
And that part of the being is also feeling more safe when it's right than what it is that you desire. So when I know that this is how the world works and I continually connect with people that reject me, at least that part knows that, okay, fuck, I'm safe because I know how the world works and this confirms my version of reality, even if that one one thousandth is looking for partnership and not to be rejected yeah it's it the nervous system wants to be right and safe rather than you know potentially what the desire might be for for success or or for money or something like that yeah so well articulated bro thank you
00:22:12.63
Christopher
Absolutely. Yeah, the the expression that always comes to my mind is, most humans would rather choose a known hell than an unknown heaven.
00:22:23.24
Gareth Pickering
yeah it's that
00:22:26.92
Gareth Pickering
So let's parlay this conversation around beliefs into sovereignty. So there's this idea that potentially these beliefs that we have in our world, however they came into our world, whether it's from caregivers, whether it's from how we believe money should look or relationships or healthcare should look, a lot of your work has to do with personal sovereignty. So how does how does our belief system shape our ability to be sovereign and what does personal sovereignty mean to you in the work that you do?
00:23:47.79
Christopher
Definitely. The personal sovereignty is... Well, again, it comes up to this idea that that we grew up with social conditioning. We grew up to play by the rules, right?
00:23:59.20
Christopher
It doesn't matter whether the rules are good. it doesn't matter whether they benefit you as an individual, whether they benefit society as a whole. it's it's You got to play by the rules, stick to the rules. But that means that you have to give your power away.
00:24:13.90
Christopher
Right. um Most people don't know, and it took me really just a lot of paradigm shifting information recently, last few years, that, for example, i don't know how it is in other countries, I imagine iss very similar, but let's take it in the United States of America. was it we We hold the United States of America in in the world to this is this ideal of freedom. It's like we're the free world and democracy. Yeah, cool.
00:24:44.01
Christopher
Well, let's let's do a couple of myth-busting things here. So number one, um slavery was never truly abolished. ah In fact, slavery wasn't isolated just to African Americans, to slaves that came from Africa.
00:24:56.80
Christopher
All humans are slaves. ah It is actually written in our constitution. There's ah the 14th Amendment, which actually defines people as citizens, citizens, which ultimately is is a slave.
00:25:08.78
Christopher
And I don't have the exact precise details on this, but you can go and do the research on your own. There's so many rabbit holes that We could spend hours talking about it. But the idea is that when you were born, your mother was conditioned to teach.
00:25:16.12
Gareth Pickering
Uh-huh.
00:25:22.38
Christopher
They taught her that she needs to sign a birth certificate. Now that birth certificate essentially creates a corporation in your name as your name. That's this all capital letters name.
00:25:34.09
Christopher
It's called an Enslegius. And this name is essentially a business that then the state or the government owns. Now, the United States government is not actually a government.
00:25:44.75
Christopher
It's a business. It's a corporation. ah That changed in the 1800s. And since then, every single law that you're experiencing, all the things, the paying taxes and all these other things are ultimately corporate code. They're commercial code.
00:26:02.01
Christopher
Most of the laws and the governments that are running in the world are are running on the UCC, the Universal Commercial Code. So what that means is, you know long story short, is that you're everything that you own, you don't really own. you know the The state owns it for you, and that's why you have to pay a driver's license. You have to pay for a privilege because you have inalienable human rights, but you have been taught and conditioned since birth to give those rights to some other bet entity, a corporation, of business, but then to receive and and in in exchange privileges.
00:26:36.67
Christopher
Now, privileges are very different. So for example, I have the state, the Supreme Court and the constitution have upheld that I have the right to travel in my private property.
00:26:49.62
Christopher
However, as soon as I start driving in an automobile or a vehicle, now that's a commercial, that's a commercial ah action. That's a commercial activity, which means that the, yeah.
00:26:59.39
Gareth Pickering
So let me just stop you there. So driving driving you in a car that you own, you're able to do.
00:27:04.38
Christopher
Mm-hmm.
00:27:04.69
Gareth Pickering
But as soon as the definition of that car becomes an automobile, the rules change for you as a function of definition and law.
00:27:12.21
Christopher
Correct, because the the police department is not actually a governing body, they're a business and they're getting you in contractual agreements, one of which says that when you get a driver's license and you register, regis, which is a Latin root word for king, when you give your property to the king and then you ask for the privilege to use it and you pay taxes or fees every year for for you know taxes on your on your vehicle,
00:27:38.28
Christopher
then you're saying, I'm going to drive in my vehicle. Well, really what you're doing is you're traveling in your private property. And as long as you're traveling in your private property, that is a private person, that's a private ah private man or woman that's acting in the private.
00:27:52.38
Christopher
And this commercial company can do nothing about it. But as soon as you start using this language, boom, all of a sudden they got you because you're engaging in a contract. And so that's why a police can pull you over, they can find you, but they're not really finding you, they're finding your business, which is your name.
00:28:08.21
Christopher
So all of that is to say that when you were born, your mother gave your power away.
00:28:08.20
Gareth Pickering
Yes.
00:28:15.67
Christopher
Now that's actually not lawful, which is why I've been engaging in a lot of people have been engaging in these different activities. And there's many ways to skin a cat about how to claim our rights as a man or woman.
00:28:28.87
Christopher
and it's very important to use these words because a person is a legal term. And that is one of those things that they they govern over this universal commercial code. But I'm saying, hey, look, um you engaged in a contractual agreement with me when I was a baby.
00:28:44.46
Christopher
So I had no free will. I was not smart enough. You had not even conditioned me enough. to be that person who could engage and give you my rights in exchange for your privileges.
00:28:50.69
Gareth Pickering
Yes.
00:28:54.88
Gareth Pickering
Yes. Yes.
00:28:56.28
Christopher
So that's what I've been doing. It's actually one of the reasons I've been home in the state of Arizona. And of course there's Arizona state and the state of Arizona, which are two different things. One's a territory defined by land.
00:29:07.62
Christopher
One is a business. So, but you know, once we, once we recognize that our power is,
00:29:09.75
Gareth Pickering
Yeah. yeah
00:29:15.39
Christopher
was given away for us. And then we have been trained to continually give our power away.
00:29:22.09
Gareth Pickering
Yep.
00:29:22.71
Christopher
Um, then we get to, we got to go through some pretty uncomfortable awakenings. like even the idea that I don't know if you have a or homeowner, but I've never owned a home. I've had part of my programming has been to be fearful of owning a home partially to be tied to one place for so long, even though it's a great vehicle for wealth.
00:29:42.35
Christopher
Um, But the the word mortgage in English actually comes from the Latin root of death pledge. Mor means death. So means a death pledge. So if you're signing something called a death pledge,
00:29:55.71
Christopher
then what we actually get to understand is that through the the legal structures, you never own that thing. And in fact, even if you pay that off and you have the title and the deed and everything, what are you still doing? Well, most people have to pay property taxes until they die.
00:30:10.23
Christopher
So if you have to pay property taxes, do you really own it?
00:30:10.71
Gareth Pickering
Yes. Yep.
00:30:13.42
Christopher
So again, we're we're taught to give our power away. And I just think of the movie, The Matrix, which has been, i mean, I remember when I saw that movie in 1999, And I was a young child. I was 15 years old, but something shifted in me.
00:30:27.81
Gareth Pickering
yes
00:30:28.43
Christopher
And it's because I believe that this was giving me unconscious signals of like, hey, you live in this world. That's not the way that you think it is. You've got all these plugs in you and the machine is feeding off of you.
00:30:40.04
Gareth Pickering
yep
00:30:40.41
Christopher
And i believe now it's our time to say, well, I'm tired of all these plugs stealing my energy, my life force, might my God-given energy. And i'm I'm choosing to change that. However, you know i work with a tool called neuro-linguistic programming, NLP, very famous with guys like Tony Robbins and and other fantastic teachers. Paul McKenna is a great and NLP and hypnotherapist.
00:31:04.94
Christopher
um Neuro means nervous system and brain. Linguistic is the words that we use that shape our world. Because remember, the first one of the first things you got taught was language.
00:31:12.76
Gareth Pickering
Yep. Right.
00:31:15.38
Christopher
You didn't choose it. It chose you.
00:31:17.04
Gareth Pickering
but yep
00:31:19.34
Christopher
But those words shape your reality. Just like to say birth certificate or to say vehicle versus automobile, ah those things are very important distinctions, not only because of ah a legal definition, but because they actually affect our nervous system in a different way.
00:31:37.57
Christopher
That's why I can say money to one person and they smile, and I can say money to another person and they immediately tense up, right?
00:31:44.63
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
00:31:45.62
Christopher
And so ah when we recognize that we don't actually have the power that we rightfully deserve as humans, as a man, as a woman, then we need to start challenging all of the words.
00:32:01.33
Christopher
We need to start challenging all of the programs. We need to start challenging all those things. The other day, ah I'm staying here at an Airbnb, fascinating experience. I'm here at an Airbnb, I'm traveling with a business collaborator and he has he has a service animal.
00:32:14.60
Christopher
ah because he was in the military, ah dealt with PTSD, bipolar, all kinds of weird stuff after that. He's since healed most of that with plants and detoxing and and just health.
00:32:26.95
Christopher
And um i i neglected to see if this was a pets allowed home or not. And so we arrived.
00:32:33.79
Gareth Pickering
ah
00:32:34.49
Christopher
And as soon as I start putting the code in the door, it doesn't work because the woman who owns the property saw the dog on the camera and immediately changed the code. so she wouldn't let us in.
00:32:47.36
Christopher
Now, even though she's listed this as a pet-free home, According to the American Disabilities Act, according to federal law, you cannot discriminate against a person who has a disability and a PTSD or a service animal, right?
00:33:00.27
Christopher
And there's very few questions that you can ask about it.
00:33:00.72
Gareth Pickering
yeah
00:33:03.04
Christopher
So she's yelling at us, we're clarifying things. Eventually the company that manages this property lets us in. Well, three days later, she's not satisfied. She calls the sheriff's department.
00:33:14.18
Christopher
Sheriff's department comes in and says that we need to get out of the house. Well, as soon as those that I see those uniforms walking outside, what do you think happened inside of my body?
00:33:25.17
Gareth Pickering
It's got to be contraction. You've been conditioned to be that way, right?
00:33:28.79
Christopher
hundred percent 100% heart level raises, I start kind of panicking. i was, ah Jonathan was, my friend was on the phone and he was having this beautiful conversation with a woman and they're just diving deep in this emotional conversation. I'm like, Jonathan, Jonathan, Sheriff's office is here. And I reverted to a younger version of myself.
00:33:50.77
Christopher
immediately because I was taught, I was conditioned that deference, that giving my power away to someone in authority was how I stay safe, right?
00:33:52.10
Gareth Pickering
Yes.
00:34:00.29
Gareth Pickering
Yep.
00:34:01.63
Christopher
So I noticed myself panic a little bit. Well, what did I do? First thing I did, take some deep breaths. Okay, I'm consciously aware that I am not in the same control, a level control that I am right now with you.
00:34:14.26
Christopher
I have an anchor, it's a ah trigger on my body that I press and squeeze and it actually invokes a series of emotions of calm and peacefulness. So it started to bring my my body back down into a state of calm.
00:34:27.19
Christopher
Fascinating technology that we can use through neuro-linguistic programming. And then Jonathan, you know, opens the door and there's a screen door and he holds it shut and they immediately walk up and they start talking about what what's going on.
00:34:38.64
Christopher
Well, they tell us that we need to evict, that we need to get out of this house. And Jonathan says, okay, yeah, thank you. Well, this is a registered service animal. And, you know, there's discrimination. This feels like discrimination. And eventually they walk away and I'm sitting there going, they didn't have a court order in their hand.
00:34:59.39
Christopher
They have no right to ask us to get off of this property. There's no power But here's the thing is it doesn't matter if they actually had official power in that moment because if we were scared enough and we left that property, then he would they would have won.
00:35:16.67
Gareth Pickering
And you complied by choice, right?
00:35:18.26
Christopher
and And I would have complied, right? Because I would have voluntarily done it because the discomfort of of my body and the stress and all those things would have caused me so much panic that I would have said it's easier to just leave.
00:35:29.52
Christopher
Lost my deposit, lost my money, all these other things. Well, right now I'm having a conversation with Airbnb and I'm saying, look, The homeowner called the sheriff, that's discrimination, that's retaliation, that's a federal offense.
00:35:43.12
Christopher
So if I didn't know my rights, if I didn't claim my sovereignty and take a moment to calm myself and say, okay, we hear you, thank you officers, we'll ah well we'll speak to the Airbnb, we'll speak to the owners, sit there and do my research.
00:35:42.92
Gareth Pickering
Yes.
00:35:58.15
Christopher
And thank goodness that artificial intelligence helps make this so much faster. I can just say, hey, this is the situation.
00:36:02.94
Gareth Pickering
Right.
00:36:04.45
Christopher
And then everything comes up, says, no, this is a a violation of your rights. Now, all of a sudden, I'm the one in a position of power because i have a guest.
00:36:12.37
Gareth Pickering
but
00:36:15.05
Christopher
And according to the federal law, according to the corporate law, that business, the sheriff's office, has been violating his rights. And now we are the ones that can leverage that to contract in such a way that we get penalties paid to us.
00:36:29.59
Christopher
Now, this takes tremendous reprogramming, wouldn't you think?
00:36:34.01
Gareth Pickering
Yep. I love it, bro. i want to get into it because it's true. It's like we have all of this power, but it's so deeply ingrained into us. And as you said, when we started this, and I want to just say how beautifully you've laid this out because it's super clear. And I know that we spoke before we got online about just how nuanced this topic is and how many rabbit holes there are and just how complicated this is. So the way you've described it has been amazing.
00:36:57.34
Gareth Pickering
But yeah, every single part of your nervous system from the moment you were in the womb in utero, your mother was already in this place of luck. I'm going to bring a baby into this world and they're going to be the best version of themselves and they're going to get a job and go to school and pay taxes.
00:37:09.44
Gareth Pickering
And the only thing that's certain is death and taxes, like all of this shit is fucking built into us almost at a DNA level.
00:37:14.54
Christopher
Yeah. yeah.
00:37:16.16
Gareth Pickering
So the idea of somebody listening to this, I know the first time I heard about this stuff, some part of me was like,
00:37:16.55
Christopher
oh yeah
00:37:22.71
Gareth Pickering
fuck yes. I fucking knew it. Like my rebel was like, I fucking knew this shit was wasn't supposed to be like this. And then my young six-year-old, the people pleaser that wants to make everybody happy and and comply because that's how I received love as a young person, is like...
00:37:38.92
Gareth Pickering
give it to the man in the uniform. He knows what to do, you know, and, you know, just just that I agree, bro. It requires so much work to reprogram these parts. And I've heard you say this on this podcast and also in a voice note that we had leading up to this, which is, I know and I can see how much work you've done, bro. You have all of the tools and you still feel that feeling in your in your being when a man in a uniform knocks on the door or a cop pulls you over or something like that, eh?
00:38:04.33
Christopher
Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, as you said, um it came to us programmed in the womb. ah some One of the tools that I work with is called Mental and Emotional Release. And it's it's but built with, designed with NLP.
00:38:17.89
Christopher
um it is It's kind of like when somebody creates, they use AI, ChatGPT is like a base tool, and then they create another AI program off of that. That's kind of like what this tool is. It's it's based and founded in the the principles of neuro-linguistic programming.
00:38:32.34
Christopher
And it uses the concept of a timeline to be able to help people to instantly, and I mean instantly, release information lifetime worth of anger, fear, grief, ah you know, anxiety, and ah limiting beliefs.
00:38:47.35
Christopher
And we do this using mental processes, we use the mind to change the emotions and the physical body. It's really fascinating. And it is, I mean, that fast, it's powerful, how much of a transformation people can experience. And that's why in a day, I can help somebody more than 20 years of therapy can because we have techniques that understand the link between the mind, the body, the nervous system, the conscious and the unconscious mind.
00:39:10.66
Christopher
Now, the fascinating thing is is that if we're getting to the root of a belief that someone is holding, let's say it is the belief that money is pain, money's painful.
00:39:22.06
Christopher
Well, we identify where was the root of that belief. We don't we don't identify, we just ask the unconscious mind and it tells us. We just say, hey, sweet little six-year-old boy inside of you. um Because the unconscious mind kind of is like a sweet little innocent child, right?
00:39:35.31
Christopher
It wants clear directions. You need to tell it exactly what to do. It's it's super enthusiastic. it's It's actually really magical, like all kids are until they believe that they aren't, which is fascinating.
00:39:46.21
Christopher
um But oftentimes, it'll say, well, the root of that is in the womb. Where going like, well, I didn't have an experience that traumatized me to believe that money isn't right. Well, but it doesn't matter because if you're...
00:39:58.88
Christopher
being made of your mother's flesh and you're woven into her nervous system and she's out there and she's working a nine to five or maybe working three jobs and she's barely making it by, she's a single mother.
00:40:10.90
Christopher
You gotta be absolutely sure that that information, that data was coming into your nervous system come combined with We now know that there's 14 generations of trauma that we can perceive expressing in your DNA.
00:40:27.85
Christopher
You've got 14 generations of unhealed trauma that you are currently expressing in your behaviors. And i did them I did the math. I asked AI how many ancestors that is, just direct related ancestors, fathers, mothers, great grandfathers, et cetera.
00:40:40.83
Christopher
32,000 humans. thousand humans in 14 generations. So 32,000 humans and their unresolved grief, their unresolved beliefs, their fear of getting screwed over, their fear of the man, the police, the you know the boys in blue, whatever it is, all of that is in you. So absolutely, I can help you to unprogram that a lot in just a matter of a day. God, give me six weeks and I can help you transform a ton.
00:41:11.52
Christopher
And Because we have to honor the nervous system, when those moments come through, the first thing I wanted to do when the sheriff's officers left the house is I went and I sat down and i'm like, I got fucking figure it. Let's talk to AI. What are my rights? What's going on right now?
00:41:25.83
Christopher
but I need some answers. And then I had to stop myself because in that panic energy, I was on my computer and all that's going to do is amplify the panic energy.
00:41:38.01
Christopher
right? Which means that I'm going to be perceiving the 100% of data. I'm going to get a thousandth of a percent, but it's not going to be a reality. It's going to be filtered through my state of panic because your current emotional state is a massive filter for how you go from a ah hundred percent to a thousandth of a percent.
00:41:56.52
Christopher
So what I needed to do in that moment, I put my hand on my heart. I closed my eyes. That's funny. I'm feeling so much emotion about that right now. And I just took some deep breaths and I said to myself,
00:42:08.92
Christopher
I am safe. I am safe. My body is safe. And I had to imagine holding my younger self and picking him up and scooping him up and holding him in my arms and saying, i am safe right now.
00:42:25.33
Christopher
Because if I were to continue in that panic energy, then you've got to think that You know, there's no there's no time except for now. The future and the past don't really exist. They only exist inside of now.
00:42:39.92
Christopher
Even when we get to the future, it's now. and And that means that every version of you, those younger versions of you, the awkward teenager, the rebellious teenager, the eight-year-old who's starting to feel awkward in his own skin, the three-year-old who's just exploring the world, the five-year-old who's panicking and stressed out because mom and dad are fighting, every one of those still exists inside of you.
00:43:01.44
Christopher
not just in your mind, but in your whole being, your nervous system as well. And so that means that I had to scoop up that panicking, sweet little child and to hold him and hold myself.
00:43:04.63
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
00:43:14.85
Christopher
Because in that moment, if I would have been panicking and I wouldn't have given myself that space, it would have been just the same thing as when I was a young child and I was having an emotional breakdown or whatever my family would have labeled it or society calls it.
00:43:30.46
Christopher
And instead of sitting with me and holding me and saying, what's going on? I'm here. I'm listening to you. It would have been perpetuating what my, yeah, well, you're safe.
00:43:38.55
Gareth Pickering
You are safe.
00:43:41.57
Christopher
You can take your time, breathe. And there's no rush. I was perpetuating what happened with my family, which was my mom panicking and trying to find a solution. right? My dad going, oh, we got to do something about this.
00:43:53.77
Christopher
We got to call somebody right now. I mean, I remember one time my father, i got the the wrong order from a Taco Bell. And if we went home and my dad flipped and he wanted, he called the Taco Bell. I didn't even, I'm like, does the Taco Bell have a phone? Like, you know, ah he called the Taco Bell. He wanted to drive down there. and and And I'm just like, in that moment, there was no sitting down and going, son,
00:44:20.27
Christopher
Are you okay? Like, is it okay that you missed your double bean burrito? You know, is this, it but he was, if, if, if that's what I learned, then it's natural that my immediate response in the presence of these sheriff's officers, even if I'm in the right, even if I have power in that moment would be to panic, but I needed to sit there.
00:44:25.71
Gareth Pickering
Yep.
00:44:44.54
Christopher
I'm safe. I'm safe. And that that's power. to be able to be in that present moment, to hold yourself.
00:44:56.83
Christopher
Even the other day, i walked up to Jonathan, who's been going through this process with me. And thank God that his, you know, he doesn't have PTSD like he used to when he came out of the military.
00:45:08.60
Christopher
He's done so much inner work as well. But I just walked up to him and I started rubbing his shoulders and his body stopped. And he just immediately dropped. And now there was this message inside of me, there was this voice inside of me being like, oh, that's a little gay.
00:45:25.56
Christopher
Now, which is funny considering I have had homosexual relationships.
00:45:25.99
Gareth Pickering
Amen.
00:45:29.14
Christopher
So if anybody is okay with that, like it's not what I actively pursue, but I've experimented with these things in my life. So I have no judgment about It's just not really my thing anymore. But as soon as I was feeling that there was this voice saying, oh, I don't know, don't do that. But he...
00:45:44.97
Christopher
oxytocin, serotonin are being produced in his brain. His nervous system is calming down. We are co-regulating. He's dropping, his muscles are releasing tension. All of a sudden,
00:45:56.68
Christopher
what we have been programmed against as men, especially don't touch, don't hug, don't, what are you, you know, what what are you doing, bro? Like what, that is actually the medicine that was so supportive in that moment to be able to just say, Hey bro, I'm feeling a little stressed right now.
00:46:04.31
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
00:46:12.58
Christopher
Can you, can you just give me a hug? Can you maybe rub my shoulders? And then act from that place. Make decisions from that place. Remember, who am I? What is my conscious desire? What are my goals?
00:46:25.71
Christopher
What is my purpose here? and then act from that place instead of from that panicked little boy. But that requires us asking for what we need, understanding neurochemistry, understanding the nervous system, understanding the inner child dynamics, understanding that we can and we get to sit down and hold that younger version of us.
00:46:44.62
Christopher
Then we can truly become sovereign because the system is designed knowing that And God, in every single movie, there's police officers.
00:46:55.65
Christopher
There's people that are acting fearful of the police. There's guns and there's danger and there's sirens and all these things. So it's no wonder that even if I just see a cop car in the rear view mirror, my unconscious mind goes, this is definitely coming in your one one thousandth of a percent.
00:47:10.81
Christopher
And you need to actually start to panic a little bit because we have to be hyper alert right now because if we do the wrong thing, we might go to jail. But if I can take control of that, if i can if I can remember who I am, and if I can say, hey, sweet, beautiful nervous system, hey, unconscious mind, I see you.
00:47:17.56
Gareth Pickering
Okay, chat. Yep.
00:47:31.35
Christopher
I see you, sweet, beautiful creature. But we know we're more powerful than this. We know that that officer only has power over us if we give it to him.
00:47:43.14
Christopher
That's why when they say something like, do you understand why I pulled you over? In English, there's a hidden magic spell in the word understand, which if you switch it backwards is stand under, right?
00:47:52.71
Gareth Pickering
Just then, then there. Yep.
00:47:55.57
Christopher
Which means that he has authority over me. So if you say something like that, you're engaging in contractual law, which means you hand them your power. And if you don't do that, if you just say simply to a police officer, I don't answer questions, they can't get you to engage in contract law and they have no power over you.
00:48:15.39
Christopher
And that takes a lot of training. It takes a lot of deprogramming and reprogramming. You have to unprogram the old stuff.
00:48:27.19
Christopher
And then you get to program it with what you want. and Because if the unconscious mind is 10 million, or I don't know what the exact number is, times more aware and observant and powerful than your conscious mind,
00:48:43.25
Christopher
Well, what happens if you can harness your kind unconscious mind to guide you to exactly what you want? What if you walked into that business meeting with 20 people and you were empowered and you said that money is God's power that helps me to become more of myself?
00:48:58.95
Christopher
then all of a sudden you don't see the five people or the 15 people that don't want your support and services. You're magnetically drawn to, and they're drawn to you, the five people that are ready to transform, that are ready to pay you what you're worth.
00:49:14.94
Christopher
Now, wouldn't that be a better way to live your life?
00:49:22.03
Gareth Pickering
I love the awareness around that understanding of 14 generations and 32,000 people so that when you are sitting in a place where you touch a another man on his shoulders and you have something come through your your field that sounds like homophobia.
00:49:41.10
Gareth Pickering
not even yours. There's half of 32,000 beings that have got a homophobic story in their reality that is part of who you are that allows you to just observe it. That's like, thank you. Okay, I get it. It's not me. It doesn't make me gay to touch my mate on his shoulders, you know? And yeah, just kudos for bringing that because I think that awareness of recognizing that so much of what we experience, the less than like 99% is not It's not even ours.
00:50:07.94
Gareth Pickering
It came to us as a function of the world that we're in. And, you know, we don't have to fucking believe in any of it. In fact, none of it is actually universally true. It's just what is, you know, it's just what's in our field as a function of how we've been born.
00:50:16.78
Christopher
No.
00:50:20.90
Christopher
Well, that and and let's let's talk about those let's talk about truth because truth is a very curious thing. I mean, I feel like somebody of the recently shared with me that if if you're going to sit down and you're going to pray, if you're going to pray to God, which is it Robert Donahue? think it's Bill Donahue maybe, is a guy who's been teaching esoteric wisdom for a long time. And um he has a ah tremendous capacity to teach and his ability to teach is is phenomenal.
00:50:54.02
Christopher
And he teach ah teaches from the Bible as a methic mythical metaphysical text, right? The greatest story ever told. It is that it is truly a way to know how to be the best human that you can be.
00:51:05.56
Christopher
And there's so much language that we can decode. And so prayer is not just reciting a bunch of words and saying, oh, dear God, please give me the money that I want. It's closing your eyes, quieting your mind, going inside and communing with the one with no distractions.
00:51:23.58
Christopher
it's it's it's It's a combination of listening and it's using your mind to project your thoughts into the mind of God. And one of the ways that we get to know, well, one of the things that he said very clearly was, what are you praying for? Well, always the one thing that you can, without a doubt, pray for that will always benefit you is pray for the truth.
00:51:45.33
Christopher
God, show me the truth in this situation. cut away the veils of illusion, cut away this bullshit language and these societal conditionings and show me what is true.
00:51:56.29
Christopher
Now, how do you know what is truth? Well, there's a lot of different ways, but one of the things I teach in my clients is, well, listen to your emotions. That's a pretty damn good indicator of what's true because your emotions also then, so, you know, what you thought you think create emotions. Emotions create neurotransmitters and hormones in your body and creates the the body.
00:52:19.06
Christopher
Essentially, it creates the different changes in the body. Now, your emotions are a fantastic navigation system. And also, they're not always true because you might be feeling that emotion of fear, not because of a truth, but because of a distorted manipulation that you carry in your DNA and your your nervous system.
00:52:35.56
Gareth Pickering
Right. Right. Yes.
00:52:36.56
Christopher
So sometimes we need to you know I use human design as a fantastic system for understanding inner authority, your truth. Some people's inner authority is emotions. Some people is sacral, which is the body gut response. That's what I navigate life with.
00:52:51.83
Christopher
ah Though emotions are still valid for me. Some people need to talk their way through it. Some people just know it's it's fascinating.
00:52:57.50
Gareth Pickering
yes
00:52:58.10
Christopher
And for me um for me, as a sacral response, I need to listen to what my body says. And it's usually very fast. And sometimes I need to actually give myself a little bit more time to know what my body feels.
00:53:11.23
Christopher
So for example, if that man comes up to me and starts rubbing my shoulders, and I know this for a fact because I've had an aversion ah to men physically touching me, not just because of this homophobia thing, but because it's a, what do you want from me?
00:53:28.62
Christopher
What are you trying to take from me? Right?
00:53:30.42
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
00:53:31.20
Christopher
So I know that that is much softer, but it still exists within me to a degree. So let's say my friend comes up to me and in that moment of panic starts to rub my shoulders. I might initially feel my body response as, oh, that's not right.
00:53:46.18
Christopher
But then I get to go, is that my truth? Well, then he continues. I say, well, okay, I'm safe. This is a brother that I trust. we've We've created trust. We've built trust, right?
00:53:58.30
Christopher
We've invested in that relationship, which means that I'm willing to say, okay, I'm goingnna i'm safe, right? I'm safe. Tell my body, hey, I'm safe. It's all good. Well, then that truth starts to come out and it expresses through those neurotransmitters of ser serotonin and oxytocin.
00:54:15.33
Christopher
Now, dopamine is also a very powerful neurotransmitter, but it is not as long lasting and powerful as serotonin and oxytocin. These are the human bond, the deep love and connection, the authentic relationship kind of chemical chemicals.
00:54:27.40
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
00:54:28.89
Christopher
And so if I allow my body to speak a little bit more, instead of, you know, running up to a child and saying, hey, what do you want for dinner? internet goes, ah, and you go like, okay, I'm going to give him a chance to calm down and go, what are you actually craving for dinner in this moment?
00:54:45.30
Christopher
Well, going to allow my body to calm down and go, oh this feels this feels magical. This feels better than most drugs. but This is better than anything that I can smoke in an instant.
00:54:57.21
Christopher
So maybe that's my truth. right And then I can start to listen to that. But that takes, again, ah deprogramming. Right, so there's there's four steps for change that we engage in My NLP teacher, ah his name is Dr. Matt James, phenomenal teacher. He's also Kumu. He's a he's a ah teacher in the Hawaiian lineage. his He inherited 120 generation lineage of Hawaiian ah healers and teachers.
00:55:23.93
Christopher
Fascinating stuff. And he is as white as can be. So it's so funny that like the story of how his family came to carry this lineage is really beautiful. But another day. And he teaches that there are four steps for change.
00:55:36.95
Christopher
In order to create any change in our life, we need to essentially do four things. Now, can look a lot of different ways, but any of the most effective leaders and coaches and teachers and and billionaires are doing this at some level, whether they're conscious to it or not, which is step one, unprogram the past.
00:55:51.19
Gareth Pickering
ah hu Yeah.
00:55:55.47
Christopher
Step two, program a new future.
00:55:57.08
Gareth Pickering
ye
00:55:59.61
Christopher
Right. So it's like ah and you're in the car.
00:55:59.93
Gareth Pickering
yeah
00:56:02.33
Christopher
I'm going to delete the old destination because it's taking me to some sketchy neighborhood downtown that I don't want to go and I'm not going to feel safe. OK, so I'm going to delete that. I'm going to then program a new destination. i'm going to go to a park just outside of the city and it's going to be beautiful and peaceful.
00:56:16.80
Christopher
Cool. Well, step three is you got to take action. right? Whether that's hitting enter or ah getting in behind the wheel and, okay, I'm going to follow the directions that it's giving me and I'm going to drive.
00:56:29.80
Christopher
Now, step four is I need to stay focused on what's working. when i When I see the little sprout come up from from the ground, I need to look at that and go, yeah, even though that's a tiny little sprout, even though that's not the $100,000 that got i got ah five dollars I got $10, right?
00:56:47.95
Christopher
Because that reinforces the unconscious mind. just like and Just like if you're working with... a People train crows to do wild things. they're They're fascinating creatures.
00:56:58.16
Gareth Pickering
Yeah. yeah
00:56:59.80
Christopher
And people people have actually trained them to go find money. And people have made thousands and thousands of dollars or euros or pounds because they've trained crows. Because when the crow shows up and gives them ah a little 20 euro note, then he hands them some food.
00:57:17.03
Christopher
And the unconscious mind is the same way. You go, good job. Well done. Thank you for doing that. And then all of a sudden the unconscious mind, even like a little child, is going to be like, where's more? like you ever Have you ever walked with a child on a beach and they come up to you and they they show you a seashell?
00:57:34.18
Christopher
and and that little kid shows you a seashell and you're like, wow, that is so cool. What's the next thing they're gonna do?
00:57:41.20
Gareth Pickering
seashells all day long.
00:57:42.71
Christopher
All day long, they're gonna find you the next coolest thing, right? The unconscious mind's exactly the same way.
00:57:46.04
Gareth Pickering
huh.
00:57:49.20
Christopher
So if we can follow that, if we can unprogram that old behavior that doesn't work anymore, which NLP is a tool among others, and breath work, emotional freedom technique tapping, EMDR, there's so many, and and I use a variety of them.
00:58:04.39
Christopher
And then we program a new future by writing out who you are in the future, tapping into what you really want, creating specific goals, and then taking action on those goals. We can actually change our neurological pathways and then start to create new neurological pathways so that the next time my friend comes up to me and offers me a shoulder rub, I'm not going to jerk, react, or panic so much.
00:58:27.45
Christopher
Now, maybe one of my action steps is to say, hey, Jonathan, by the way, I love you, brother. And in the future, it would be best if you ask me permission first before you approach me and touch my body.
00:58:41.08
Gareth Pickering
Yeah.
00:58:41.45
Christopher
I need to set a boundary.
00:58:43.06
Gareth Pickering
right
00:58:43.58
Christopher
And then he can come up be like, hey, man, you seem a little tense. How about a shoulder open? I'm like, oh, yeah. And then I don't even have to have that panic response. Right? So there's so many different ways that we can do that. But all of it breaks down to deprogram reprogram, take action, focus on the results that are working for you.
00:59:00.55
Christopher
I'll tell you that fourth one is so challenging. It can be very challenging.
00:59:03.84
Gareth Pickering
yeah yeah
00:59:06.68
Christopher
Requires faith. I believe. Um,
00:59:09.12
Gareth Pickering
And letting go of the part of you that wants the $100,000 from a base of zero. It's like going to the gym and being like, I want to improve my bench press on day one. And you don't celebrate the fact that you're going from zero.
00:59:20.90
Gareth Pickering
You know each can't bench press 100 kilograms on day one. You have to go through the process of starting slowly. So you know we understand it in some areas of life, but we want to relationships or money or these old beliefs to be broken down and fixed within a few moments.
00:59:33.75
Gareth Pickering
So yeah, I think faith is the is the key there.
00:59:34.86
Christopher
Yeah, absolutely.
00:59:38.40
Christopher
Yeah, faith faith is the key. and And the good thing is that we can see if someone else has done it, you can do it too. And that's true for anything. um And if you ever think like, oh, yeah, well, but if I have a physical disability, cool, it go on the internet, there's hundreds of stories, if not 1000s of stories of people that have physical disabilities that are doing the same thing, if not more than people that don't have those disabilities. So
01:00:00.52
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
01:00:01.56
Christopher
that's that's if That's how powerful the human mind is. That how that is how powerful how your willpower is. Your will and intention is, I'd say, you know really the ultimate power tools that we have in our kit as a human, which is ultimately an infinite being that limits itself as a human for the purpose and ability to create in the human realm.
01:00:27.41
Christopher
um You know, it's like buying the $50 video game and the $500 PS5 and then going home and putting that in so that you can create this avatar that you can go and play in this world that's so immersive.
01:00:38.55
Christopher
Like we did the same thing, except the cost of coming here was forgetting who you are, forgetting your connection to the divine, forgetting all of your past memories or whatever they might be, ah inheriting a bunch of internet inter intergenerational bullshit and and ah and ah inheriting a bunch of social conditioning.
01:00:48.07
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
01:00:55.66
Christopher
forgetting who you are. Why? Well, it's not because it's some curse. It's because it's so fascinating and exciting to remember who you are. So that's the price that we pay. And the cool thing is, is that if someone else can do it, you can do it too. And we talk so much about the quantum leap and I was stuck in an addiction, especially to psychedelics, because I was hooked on this idea that if I could just smoke Bufo one more time, if I could just take another dose of ayahuasca, that everything would change just so fast in my life.
01:01:26.08
Christopher
which there's truth to that.
01:01:28.08
Gareth Pickering
Yes.
01:01:28.41
Christopher
And you can deprogram and reprogram in one of those sessions, but you still need to take action. You need to go into the gym and you need to do the reps, right?
01:01:39.62
Christopher
One of the reasons why I, in one year, smoked 5-MeO-DMT almost 100 times, which most people, if they're ever guided to do it, once is plenty.
01:01:39.39
Gareth Pickering
Yep.
01:01:51.74
Christopher
Why I did that is because I was stuck in a loop because I wasn't taking action. I wasn't going to the gym and being okay that I was only lifting five kilograms first, right?
01:02:03.03
Gareth Pickering
Thank
01:02:03.97
Christopher
And celebrating those little wins. And a lot of that has to do with my my my neurotype being neurodivergent, specifically what's labeled as ADHD, attention deficit hyper sort hyperactive disorder, um which ah is a complete horrible labeling.
01:02:23.26
Christopher
Again, we talk about the power of words, and that's a terrible word because we're calling you disordered. no No, no, no, no, no. I love the term neurodivergent because it means that I am diverging from the main path, but I believe that neurodivergence, autistic, dyslexia, ADHD, and the like, we're here because, and I believe we to a degree we've always been here, because the tribe needed the scout to go and wander off into the nature and to find new resources, new hunting grounds.
01:02:53.51
Christopher
Because if we stayed in the same spot, we'd get stagnant and we'd potentially die as a tribe. Now there's people in the tribe that sit there and they knit and they take care of the homes and they build the fires. And then there's the other people that can't sit still to knit and build the fire, but we're off in the trees and we're hypervigilant and we're like open to this whole world and we can see things that other people can't.
01:03:17.75
Christopher
I believe that us neurodivergence, the ones that have nervous systems that are wired differently, are here so to be an usher of this new era because we are so fucking uncomfortable in the world that has been constructed because of our neurochemistry, because of our of art things like loss aversion. I think we feel loss at a greater level.
01:03:38.38
Christopher
you know Obviously our baseline dopamine levels are lower. And so our tendency to be able to stick with something so that we can that we can invest in those small gains that eventually create exponential gains, which that quantum leap doesn't happen in one day. It's not, I'm going to smoke DMT and then boom, I'm a whole different person.
01:03:57.48
Christopher
I might be able to connect to a vision of a different person of myself. I might be able to let go of some body trauma, but i' yeah but I'm still, if if I delete the old GPS coordinates from my automated car and it's driving on the road, if there's no new instructions, eventually it will take the old instructions and put them back in place because it needs to keep you alive.
01:04:02.12
Gareth Pickering
But he's still living in that body. Uh-huh.
01:04:20.01
Christopher
So that's why I can help you transform a lot in a day, but we also do need some integration time because showing up to the gym, those small little wins, focusing your attention, controlling your mind is going to actually create the quantum leap.
01:04:31.32
Christopher
The quantum leap doesn't happen in one day. It happens in such a way that all of a sudden, one day you look at yourself in the mirror and you go, holy shit, I'm shredded, right?
01:04:41.20
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
01:04:42.43
Christopher
Because of the little wins, because of the little gains that stacked. I mean, talk to any millionaire billionaire and they'll talk to you about compounding interest. Same thing occurs with with personal transformation and development.
01:04:57.38
Gareth Pickering
how do we How do we create a new, more inclusive world by getting rid of it? agree with you, the word disorder is just completely wrong. I think it puts a whole class of people into a space that makes them feel disempowered or not part of, and I think we need to get rid of that as quickly as possible.
01:05:14.20
Gareth Pickering
what' what's the way through? what how do we How do we shift this paradigm around this?
01:05:17.47
Christopher
Yeah.
01:05:18.97
Gareth Pickering
Because I see it all the time and I think it's it's coming more and more into the collective conversation and people tend to sit with ADHD as some sort of curse. Where I agree with you, bro, some of the most sharp and amazing people are the people that have got fucking gifted in areas that society doesn't know quite what to do with.
01:05:36.91
Christopher
Yeah. I mean, theoretically, Steve Jobs was ADHD as shit. But you know these people are visionaries because we have ah visual pattern recognition.
01:05:41.12
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
01:05:44.90
Christopher
We have different types of functions in our brain that allow us to see things, that allow us to envision things differently. Now, he combined it with LSD and a um a bunch of other things. and and and combined himself with somebody I don't know for sure, but Steve Wozniak, I believe wasn't. I believe he was much more grounded and methodical and he maybe had that more neurotypical brain. So I think number one is as a recognition and of what it is on learning your neurochemistry.
01:06:13.24
Christopher
Number two is a complete shift in perspective and labeling. ah Get rid of this language, the disorder. I mean, hol that that what is it? The DSM-5, the ah diagnosis for whatever mental diseases and disorders, that whole system, that Freudian perspective that everybody's fucked up and everybody needs to go to therapy is such bullshit.
01:06:32.39
Christopher
Now, we all could benefit from... tools and transformation and support and being heard and things like that. But I'd prefer to work it with a coach who has tools and techniques any day of the week over working with a therapist.
01:06:44.27
Christopher
Now, I think if we can shift the words, remember the L and NLP is linguistics. If we can change the language, to more empowering. That's why ADHD is what people understand.
01:06:57.01
Christopher
So if I say ADHD to a person in the grocery store, random conversation, they're gonna understand me. If I say neurodivergent to them, they might not understand it. Cool, so let's educate on what are better words for that.
01:07:08.16
Christopher
Neurodivergent for me is empowering, right?
01:07:08.08
Gareth Pickering
Yes.
01:07:11.17
Christopher
Okay, so if I learn about what it is, if I empower myself, if I reframe, which is one of the most powerful techniques that we can do, change the lens through which I'm observing the world, if I reframe this as a superpower, then I go, well, maybe I'm not meant to sit at a desk for for you know a nine to five shift, you know when when probably I'm just scrolling and and looking for cheap dopamine.
01:07:11.18
Gareth Pickering
yes
01:07:33.99
Christopher
Well, then I understand how do I find better sources of dopamine? And then I understand, well, actually, if I just worked for three hours a day, but was very specific about how I do that, and then I go out in the world and then I allow my superpowers to, again, show me different things and better ideas. And and then as I start to act differently with that knowledge, I think the next biggest thing is community, 100%.
01:07:59.75
Christopher
ah hundred percent if you are somebody who deals with the disorder of ADHD and you're alone, or you're hanging out with friends who are neurotypical and who have a different level of baseline dopamine and who, when they go out and drink and they spike their dopamine and then they crash the next day, they're gonna return to a higher baseline.
01:08:19.57
Christopher
Whereas a neurodivergent person is gonna crash and hit a lower baseline. And then they're gonna be craving junk food, more drugs, ah porn, whatever it might be. You're gonna get into this nasty spiral. And so if you're there alone in your home or you're just going back and forth to work,
01:08:35.85
Christopher
you're going to suffer. Or if your friends are all doing things where you pay four times the price, then you're going to suffer tremendously. Now, if you can surround yourself with people that are like you, not just ADHD, but people that are neurodivergent, that have a different language, that are empowering, that are encouraging, that are supportive.
01:08:54.92
Christopher
If you're around people who are choosing to every day show up and go to the gym or do the reps on their business or whatever it might be, then you're Well, then we become not only whole class of empowered people, we also become exactly what this planet needs, which is the the Neos to stand up in the matrix and to say, this shit is not right, and I'm choosing something different.
01:09:18.94
Christopher
Then we become the the Morpheus who walks over to the people who may or may not have similar issues, and we say, look, you've got two pills. Do you want to go back to sleep and keep doing that same shit over and over again, even though the truth inside of you is going to keep screaming for something?
01:09:32.92
Gareth Pickering
Bye.
01:09:35.14
Christopher
Or do you want to take this other pill and realize, yes, your birth certificate is a business that you don't own, but there is a pathway to where you can reclaim ownership. I've just done it. Now I did that with the help of other people that have a community call later with them, because I'm going to get into community where we're all talking about the same thing. And we're all empowering each other because we're all going through these like mind numbing legal documents and all these things.
01:09:58.64
Christopher
But I can do that because I have a goal and a vision, which is to reclaim my power. I have a map, which is what this company I paid for, what they're giving me as a map.
01:10:10.02
Christopher
And then I have a community to reinforce and support me. So then I will take those actions like I had to pay $140 yesterday to publish an affidavit in the local newspaper so that I could record it at the county recorder's office.
01:10:26.28
Christopher
For an ADH person, that's mind-numbing. And it's also irritating to have to pay that money. For a sovereign being who is reclaiming his power, it is simply a necessary step that a king takes in order to assert his power on the throne.
01:10:42.31
Gareth Pickering
ah ho
01:10:46.59
Gareth Pickering
whoo There's so much in there, man.
01:10:50.30
Gareth Pickering
What a I'd like to just check with you before I make this promise. Are you able to share some of the links? Is this community that you're working with something that's open for other people? Do they need to have jumped through certain hoops?
01:10:59.70
Christopher
Oh yeah.
01:11:00.15
Gareth Pickering
Like you don't need to spend too much time on it now because I know it's such a rich topic and there's so many different rabbit holes. But yeah, are you open to sharing some links in the show notes that people that want to know more about this unraveling themselves from the corporation that they've been born into but against their will?
01:11:16.74
Gareth Pickering
Can we put something like in in the show notes and and journey more deeply with you?
01:11:19.39
Christopher
Yeah, absolutely. um I will definitely do that. Number one, because it's super easy and I highly encourage people to to check into it. um ah I'll give you, i have a personal link that they can use.
01:11:34.85
Christopher
fair Fair warning, it is an affiliate link. um I believe this is actually one of the best ways to spread the magic in the medicine is to help incentivize people to be able to do that.
01:11:37.33
Gareth Pickering
Yep. Yep. Yep.
01:11:45.59
Christopher
ah It's called thefreedompeople.org. So they're the freedom people.org. I will say that this is, they are focused in United States based processes. So for those of you that are listening internationally, you're going to have to do a little bit of research to see what happens there, because though these theoretically, these same processes would apply.
01:11:55.34
Gareth Pickering
yeah
01:12:05.02
Christopher
i can't say that they're going to be able to do things for South Africa, for example. Right.
01:12:08.95
Gareth Pickering
Right there difference in.
01:12:09.87
Christopher
Um,
01:12:10.05
Gareth Pickering
Yep.
01:12:11.35
Christopher
there's totally But they're they're all, it's pretty much, if it's if if it's a modern government, it's pretty much working on the same business model. It works. It has worked until now.
01:12:19.20
Gareth Pickering
Yep.
01:12:20.73
Christopher
So thefreedompeople.org, you can check that out. And then please, I'll share the link with you. And I think the first step there is they have a simple video, which is just essentially a small red pill.
01:12:34.26
Christopher
which shows you about how you have been lied to your entire life and that the governments and the the things that you learned are not actually what you've been taught. So, um and then from there, um you know, if you learn how to prompt artificial intelligence with the right mindset,
01:12:54.66
Christopher
um because it will defer to like, oh yeah, the government this no. If you say like, hey, I want you to pretend like you are a wildly rebellious, highly studied in the law, ah familiar with universal commercial code, understanding sovereignty, understanding statesmanship and national sovereignty and all these things, tell me what to do, then it will give you that information.
01:13:17.55
Christopher
Except if you don't prompt it with that, it's going to defer defer to or default to, um yeah, you gotta pay your taxes, bro.
01:13:25.36
Gareth Pickering
the blue pill yeah so bro what uh what are you working on right now that you're excited about that you can share with the audience i know this is one piece but this is not really your main focus what's in your world right now that's uh that's taking your life force and you've got juice for
01:13:29.67
Christopher
Yeah. Yeah. Hmm.
01:13:41.41
Christopher
Yeah, um let's see. Well, the the the one the the thing that has felt to me the most inspiring recently is really speaking to this neurodivergence, right? Speaking to these archetypes, these neurotypes ah to help empower them. Because I didn't know really until this year that I am neurodivergent.
01:14:07.42
Christopher
I've always had a sense that I'm a bit different. And like one of those, ah like the Sixth Sense or one of those movies where the the big reveal happens at the end. And then all of a sudden I look back at my entire life and I go, holy shit. Like I have been ADHD my entire life. It's just, I worked in the restaurant business and that was a superpower as a restaurant manager, but as a food and beverage director or as a managing like office based employee, oh God, no, that would never work.
01:14:38.51
Gareth Pickering
wrong tool for the job.
01:14:38.98
Christopher
Now, absolutely the wrong tool for the job.
01:14:39.47
Gareth Pickering
Mm-hmm.
01:14:42.48
Christopher
I will say that probably a lot of people in the military, nursing, ah restaurant, ah bartenders, a lot of these people probably are quite neurodivergent because they just thrive in in high dynamic energies.
01:14:55.60
Christopher
So the first thing is is my next path is creating a community space for these people to come together in an empowering space where you can learn about how your mind works, whatever type of neurodivergence you have.
01:15:08.45
Christopher
And that we can come together and empower each other. That's something that's in the works. It's not fully ah fully brought to material plane yet. It's really much more of an an energetic thing. So that's something that I'm very passionate about simply because I feel like if we can, as teachers and guides, like like you and I are, and like so many people are, like we all have the opportunity to be, if we can just share based upon the things that we've learned and the suffering that we've gone through, we can really help I mean, if you can just fix some of your own problems, you can help potentially millions of other people because you're not alone in this, right?
01:15:43.89
Christopher
You are unique, however, you're not alone. But what I recently created that has been ah just a power tool is what I call the Rise and Reset Program.
01:15:54.97
Christopher
it is ah It's designed to be a simple seven-step small chunks of videos and ah reframing and limiting belief ah transformation techniques Essentially, it's like a crash course in neurolinguistic programming and other tools that I created. It's a self-guided course that's available now.
01:16:16.90
Christopher
And that course is essentially taken the years of study that I've done in metaphysics and neurolinguistic programming, the unconscious mind, and it's there to give you the manual that you were never given in school.
01:16:35.49
Christopher
Because what would life have been like if you had showed up for school and they told you, this is how your mind works. This is how your nervous system works.
01:16:47.28
Christopher
This is how perception works. Actually, everything that you're seeing is just your unique world. It's not what's really there, but it's because of your unconscious mind and your traumas and your beliefs.
01:16:58.28
Christopher
what would have happened if you would have gotten that instructions manual? And then how would your life have changed? So I decided to create essentially this instructions manual in a very easy to digest format so that you can step-by-step take that red pill, completely change the perspective of your world and start to take your power back by understanding how it is that this reality actually works.
01:17:25.25
Christopher
It's a fusion of ancient wisdom, metaphysics, and scientifically proven data to show you that you are the creator of your own reality. And once you accept that charge, sure, you take that responsibility and also,
01:17:40.91
Christopher
um You know, we always say with great power comes great responsibility, but I'm also like, yeah, but look at the other side too, but with great responsibility comes great power. So my my goal is, my desire is to help people empower themselves by really recognizing and and living the truth that you are the creator of your own world.
01:17:48.91
Gareth Pickering
Hmm.
01:18:02.54
Christopher
And isn't that so freeing?
01:18:08.01
Gareth Pickering
I love that. I think um the work that you're doing around neurodivergence touches on something that's been really dear to my heart, which is the recognition that from our wounds come our wisdom. The thing that we are working through in our incarnation is the thing that we're going to be most qualified to teach. your Your experience of what you've worked through and the realizations that you've had around this languaging of how it is to be neurodivergent in this world, the tools that can support others,
01:18:35.15
Gareth Pickering
is the work that you should be doing. You're uniquely qualified for that. And I just want to say well done for for going through that path and recognizing that because, yeah, it's it's something that I'm also supporting people with, which is recognizing in this world,
01:18:49.42
Gareth Pickering
We need more of us on this healing path to be able to go out into the world and to be able to make a difference. And part of that is, first of all, recognizing what's yours to bring. And very often it's linked to the thing that most of us are trying to avoid. But once you've got that imprint of having worked through that piece and integrated it, you are uniquely qualified, unlike anybody else, to go and find more like you and support them with what you've learned. And then part of The second part of that is, like okay, how do I get paid to do this so that I can actually receive energy through my business or my offer to be able to actually continue to do this work? Because if you're just out there serving people sort of from a place of martyrdom and you can't pay your own bills and you can't get paid, broke coaches go nowhere and they help nobody.
01:19:28.90
Gareth Pickering
you know You really need to be in that place.
01:19:29.73
Christopher
Yeah.
01:19:30.42
Gareth Pickering
So yeah, there's a couple of pieces there, but I really like what you said there around that because... yeah, the world needs it. There's so much more of the, and I want to put in inverted commas, the ADHD, because I'm going to switch to talking about Euro divergence now, because the power of words really fucking matters. And yeah, thank you for not only the reframe, but for, for bringing your own, it's not even really a wound. It's a superpower once it's integrated.
01:19:54.53
Gareth Pickering
So yeah, well done, brother.
01:19:56.66
Christopher
Absolutely. Yeah. And, and you know, but for those coaches and healers that are out there on the path that aren't making money, been there. Let's talk because it's just a couple of little switches that we might need to switch around in your brain.
01:20:05.71
Gareth Pickering
Thank you.
01:20:09.57
Christopher
Because, and well, even the the added bonus, I recently learned that it is very common for people who are neurodivergent to have difficulty charging what they're worth. because we have an ingrained sense of justice. Most of us have gone through a great deal of trauma.
01:20:25.24
Christopher
And so it is natural for us to avoid what we might feel is taking advantage of somebody else, right? How could I possibly charge $1,000 for this coaching session, even though it is worth $10,000, even though to the right person, it could be worth a million dollars.
01:20:41.74
Gareth Pickering
Right.
01:20:45.10
Christopher
And that's just one of those little gifts that we get to overcome. And that will, of course, ah once we pull the sword from the store in stone, then we get to stand more in our power.
01:20:58.12
Gareth Pickering
So good, bro.
01:21:01.05
Gareth Pickering
I'm excited for future co-creations, bro, whether they be in person. I know we just missed each other in Guatemala. I know you have a desire to come to South Africa at some point. And yeah, I look forward to the day that our our paths cross in person again. And just want to say thanks for the work that you're doing and for showing up and and giving of your attention to this this audience. I think there's been so much value from this. We'll include all of your your links to your programs and some of the resources we spoke about inside the show notes. And Yeah. Anything else you want share in parting for, for those that have made it all the way to the end of this really beautiful conversation?
01:21:33.88
Christopher
the The one thing that comes to my mind is, ah by the way, bonus bonus points. ah If you just listen, your unconscious mind will give you the answers. So instead of me trying to think of an answer, i just allowed my unconscious mind to show me. And I had a very quick flash of exactly what it was.
01:21:52.91
Christopher
um You can do the same thing. and Just be like, hey, show me what is the most important thing right now. And then it will it will show you. So just listen, remember, it's a servant. Now, the thing that comes to my mind right now is A lot of us that are on this path of awakening, we we get into these concepts of the chosen one, right?
01:22:11.30
Christopher
Like we are the chosen ones. we we're We're here to break these patterns. We're here to break these curses. We've been chosen by God. And there's there's certainly maybe some truth in that, um but it can also incite some spiritual ego. And it's it's ah it's an old program coming up and and rearing its head.
01:22:29.96
Christopher
It's... i don't I'm not, you know, the work that I do is not for the faint of heart. It is not for those that are just looking to make an extra 10% in their, you know, annual income.
01:22:42.26
Christopher
The work that I do is for those that are here to become leaders and to become those teachers and guides or to improve the work they're already already doing. But the chosen one is not somebody who's chosen by God because we all were chosen by God.
01:22:54.94
Christopher
The chosen one is the one who chooses themselves. The one who chooses themselves. And true sovereignty is that freedom of choice. So you are the one, just like the matrix taught us, because you believe to be the one, because you choose to be the one.
01:23:13.13
Christopher
So make that choice, affirm that choice every day, watch the world transform around you.
01:23:19.81
Gareth Pickering
So good, bro. Till next time. Thank you for being here. Big love.
01:23:24.04
Christopher
Appreciate it. Yeah.
01:23:26.32
Gareth Pickering
Cheers.
