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calltocourage
Welcome to the Call to Courage podcast, super jazzed to be hanging out today with Adam Roa, welcome to the show brother.
00:07.11
Adam
Hey thank you for having me Gareth.
00:10.93
calltocourage
So good to have you here with our worlds of sort of not quite crossed until we got into this call today. But um, yeah, super excited to share some some space with you get to know you a little bit better and drop into. Yeah, some of the gifts that you have and some of the the magic that you've been sharing with the world. How do you describe? Adam Rower who are you.
00:36.11
Adam
Ah, ah, that's that's a really great question. Um, how do I describe Adam Roa I mean whenever I'm asked that question I really feel like my answer is I'm human, you know and I think that any buddy listening to this. Can probably relate to that and all of the the complexities of what that even means to be human in today's day and age. Um I am someone who believes very much that the best.
00:58.61
calltocourage
Ah.
01:06.60
calltocourage
Ah.
01:12.20
Adam
Most effective, efficient and enjoyable way to be human is to have creativity as a part of your life and as a major through line to how you live not just as something you do, but as a way of viewing the world in a way of viewing yourself. So um. I think that I would consider myself a devotee to creativity and also just personal evolution and growth.
01:40.82
calltocourage
It's so good I in them watching your creation specifically around your poetry and your ability to create with words and um, yeah, it's been really powerful to witness and I think before you ah what was the name of the poem that you shared that went viral. Um.
01:57.60
Adam
You are yeah that's called you are who you've been looking for.
01:58.66
calltocourage
The 1 about loving yourself is what's the name of you are who you've been looking for. Yeah, was that your first major like breakthrough that puts you on the map or like were you. Were you already sort of known for your for your poetry before that like what is your your path with creativity being I know you call yourself a coach like a creative consultant and a poet has that always been your gig in the last few years
02:13.37
Adam
Are now.
02:24.82
Adam
Well I I actually started um as a personal development coach in 2013 so I started taking on 1 on one coaching clients back in 2013
02:34.52
calltocourage
Okay.
02:40.34
Adam
Um, and so in a lot of ways I feel like that makes me a bit of a O G in the space. Um, for for coaching um work and that has been a primary thing that I've done for.
02:45.78
calltocourage
See.
02:54.48
Adam
Ever Since. It's been the primary way that I've made an income and and revenue ever since and that's led to masterminds and and courses and programs. However, um, I've also always been an artist and a creative I moved to L a to pursue an acting career that led to me. Um, creating I like directing writing producing and eventually I left Hollywood and um, really focused on the personal development path but I never let go of my belief which is that the highest leverage way we shift. Consciousness on this planet is through art and so I believe that I'm here to help shift consciousness and that to me is done most effectively through art and in addition to that on a personal level, an artistic creative path is. What I have found for a lot of reasons which we might get into later to be the most effective path of of personal growth and so as everyone's kind of evaluating what sort of plant medicines to do or yoga teacher train needs to take or breathwork to get into whatever it might be creativity I think is overlooked as. A real means to elevate your life and and bring about more happiness and so um, when I started taking what I was teaching from to my clients and putting them into artistic Mediums such as spoken-word poetry that was when suddenly it.
04:30.80
Adam
It took off my poem going viral. It's been viewed more than 250000000 times at this point. Um, when that poem went viral. It built a much larger social media following but I was already. By the time that went viral I'd already toured internationally for my poetry on several occasions and I'd I'd already been making a ah personal development reality show called the art of choosing love that I put out on my Youtube channel all of these things were already being done as I'd committed my life to to putting out. Creative expressions that I thought could help people.
05:08.36
calltocourage
That's so beautiful I think what's what stands out for me amongst a couple of questions that come from that is the part of that that was like you were already doing the thing and then you know something that you had been working on and your craft that you had been evolving suddenly goes viral. Perhaps not so suddenly you had already been putting in the hours and doing the work and so I think there's quite a lot of people that are hoping that they're going to their first couple of posts go viral and they'll they'll build from there but it really doesn't always work that way you got to put in the work first to hone your craft and get to a place where yeah, you have something that's good enough. In order for it to be shared as much as that poem has has been shared. What are you? Why are we so disconnected from creativity as a healing modality.
05:53.14
Adam
I think that people are raised to believe that creativity looks a certain way first and foremost so a lot of people when they think creative like a full-time creative they're thinking painting. Um. They're thinking dancing. They're thinking music they're thinking poetry but creativity is just the expression of creative energy into tangible like art is the expression of creative energy into tangible form and so I think creativity and art. Are synonymous in a lot of ways when you when you're expressing creatively into something tangible. That's that's art but that can look like how you organize your closet. You know that can look like how you prepare a meal for your family. It doesn't have to look like what you you do as a painter. Draw dancer singer and so that's 1 reason because for the people some people don't have that sort of skill set or a hobby and then the second is I think a lot of people are raised to believe that creativity is a hobby that creativity is something that you do. Um, on the side once you've figured out the practical aspects of um, your how you make money and what is going to be your career and and all of these sorts of things. Um, it's kind of signed it kind of put into this box of a side pursuit. Um, and I think it's.
07:25.95
Adam
It's been that way because of a misunderstanding of creativity in the creative process. But the thing is when you speak to artists when you speak to people who have integrated creativity into their life in some way shape or form you'll hear from all of them. How much the creative expression. Has impacted our lives. The creative expression is for me, it's It's gotten me through depression. It's gotten me through Breakups. It's the thing that has built a a social media following is the thing that is gives me. Excitement for for what I'm doing in the world Creativity has so much more to offer than just a hobby.
08:10.80
calltocourage
How do you access it? How does somebody who doesn't consider themselves to be creative. That's listening to this go That's cool. How do I do it like what is my entry point like surely just making dinner or rearranging my closet is not the way or is that the entry point.
08:28.44
Adam
Um, I think that one to to be creative means also to follow your curiosity so from ah a starting point. What are you curious about you know, like what do you do? is there a part of you That's always.
08:34.65
calltocourage
And.
08:44.24
Adam
Wondered if you could sing or has wanted to pick up the guitar or loves to dance when no one's watching like what what is that thing that you're naturally you have an inclination towards um because again I believe your creative energy is the purest expression of of your soul. I Think your creative energy which is your life Force Energy. It's your sexual energy. It's all the same thing. It's the it's the energy of creation. So to me tapping into your creative energy is less about trying to.
09:10.15
calltocourage
Her.
09:19.90
Adam
To force something and it's more about listening to how your soul wants to express itself and so that's when when people ask how? um and I'm not wanting to downplay the difficulties of this at times because again, we.
09:34.15
calltocourage
The difficulties of access and creativity. You mean.
09:38.39
Adam
Yeah, yeah for people who are not accustomed to it I think that it can feel like I don't even know how to get started. Um, it's the reason why I I have my online community the create Community. Um, which is entirely about helping people access Creativity. That's that's what it is and there's. No way to do it without like expressing it you you have to express it. That's that's the thing you can't just sit and be lost in Creative energy. Um, and think that you're going to somehow. Develop that skill just like anything else you you can sit and imagine and hear music in your head but until you pick up the Instrument. You're not really translating that into the fullest expression ah of how that can impact you um, along the way same thing with your creativity to sit and just. Be lost in creativity is actually just to be lost in your imagination. Every child knows how to do this. You don't have to teach a child how to get lost in their imagination. Um, we more have to just unlearn the part of us that may have shut off our imagination and then give ourselves the outlet for it.
10:37.24
calltocourage
Rat.
10:54.35
Adam
And so that's really what I work with clients on and things like that. You'd be so you'd be shocked how many multi multimillionaires are feel like they don't have creativity and and I say to them you you built a $50000000 business you think that's not creative like you.
11:10.88
calltocourage
This is 6
11:12.86
Adam
Absolutely have that creativity. It's just a matter of um, reframing it so that you can see it.
11:20.85
calltocourage
Yeah I love the part of starting with curiosity because I feel like that's life's way of guiding us onto a path. You know there is inherently something that we're excited about or curious about and when we take the time to tune into that. Yeah. Including actually taking action is what I heard you say like it's not 1 thing just to sit and meditate on what it would be like to play the guitar but to actually pick it up and to see what it feels like to to move with that creative muse is the way to be able to feel if that is the creative outlet for you know for each individual person and what. How does that link to healing. How do you see? I mean this is something that's been pretty new to me until I spoke to James Mcrae recently which was like I didn't actually recognize creativity as a path for healing because yeah, the new age is all about like you said breath work yoga teacher training talk therapy as a way to to get clear on stuff. What are you What is the link between our creative love force and healing.
12:18.20
Adam
Well once you adopt the idea that your creative energy is your life force energy and from there you adopt the idea that your life force energy. Being given the permission to move through you on a regular basis is one of the most healing things you could possibly do. That's that's the starting point because now I think especially probably people listening to your podcast and and my audience they're all into. The idea of energy healing there in some way shape or form sound healing. Really what we're talking about is just energy has vibration vibration has frequency. So The frequency of ah of anything moving through your system can be healing or it can be.
12:56.42
calltocourage
Um, and I.
13:10.91
Adam
Ah, detrimental and so when we look at things like cymatic CYMATICS which is the ability for sound waves and frequencies to affect the um structure of matter. That's when you've seen sand on a vibrational plate and they put in different frequencies in it.
13:27.40
calltocourage
This is.
13:30.10
Adam
It arranges itself into geometric shapes and those geometric shapes become more complex at higher frequencies. Well your creative energy is an energy. It is an energy therefore it has a frequency what could possibly be more healing. For you then to have your frequency like your unique creative life Force energy frequency moving through your system and and I think that Ah, for those people who are told you know they're not creative for those people who were told that creativity is something you have to shut down and use as a hobby.
13:56.55
calltocourage
Just.
14:08.96
Adam
What has happened is they're stagnating that flow of energy and what's available. So I start there because you sort of need to adopt those 2 beliefs of understanding. In order to then become receptive to what it can bring up in in you because once you start flowing the energy and you recognize the importance of flowing that creative energy through your body. It's going to. Bring things to the surface and push things out the same way that people experience when they go to any other type of energetic healing.
14:45.27
calltocourage
Ah.
14:50.12
calltocourage
How do you see people human beings culture that has got a like a suppressed um perhaps story around our our sexual energy or our. Our sexual life force and it's linked to our ability to be able to access creativity.
15:09.60
Adam
Um, the link of specifically around repressed sexuality. Um.
15:14.41
calltocourage
Yeah I get a sense I'm trying to see whether you believe that there's you know liberation from our sexual shame or um, old stories that perhaps are linked to our sexual energy whether that is somehow linked to unlocking creativity in your opinion.
15:28.32
Adam
Well I think that there's a reason why artists are seen as so sexy you know I think there's a reason why society idolizes and sexualizes our artists. Our musicians and our actors and our yes, they're good looking people but there's a ton of good looking people I'm but I'm currently living in Miami there's good looking people everywhere. But um when when there's an artist who is in their creative expression. There's something magnetic about that.
15:52.15
calltocourage
Aha.
16:01.59
calltocourage
This.
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Adam
And the reason is because again our creative energy is another expression of our our life force energy is is sexual energy. So really,? what's happening is we have life force energy that is moving through us and we can choose to express that energy creatively and we can choose to express that energy sexually which is also create teen sexual energy is the energy of of how we create more life. So. Um, it's just a different expression of the same energy and so when you are cultivating your creative Energy. You are also um, cultivating at least let's put it this way at least giving yourself a more.
16:35.35
calltocourage
Awesome.
16:50.86
Adam
Of a reservoir that you could funnel into sexual energy if you chose to and I think that um from a it a practical level when we feel creatively expressed. We feel sexy.
16:54.70
calltocourage
Refer.
17:06.51
calltocourage
Nothing.
17:08.70
Adam
That there's just something about when we're allowing ourselves to express creatively. We feel more magnetic because we're actually allowing more of ourself to move in alignment in that moment and what is sexiness really outside of the aesthetic nature of it. Sexiness is. Is an acceptance a full embodiment of the entirety of who we are when someone is it walks into a room and is in full acceptance of this is me I Love me I know the value I bring I know who I am that's sexy and that will have a magnetism to it.
17:45.24
calltocourage
And so the opposite could be true as well. You could cultivate a healthy sexual practice as a way to be able to flow the creative life force and creative muse through you in the same way.
17:58.43
Adam
Yeah I think that um one for example, you can charge yourself up sexually and then while in that charge go ahead and allow yourself to now funnel that into something creative. Absolutely that that's a um.
18:10.95
calltocourage
You.
18:16.30
Adam
It's a it is a way of of approaching it and I think that there's also a reason why sex is tied to manifestation sex magic and and the energy of.
18:27.74
calltocourage
And.
18:32.46
Adam
Using using our sexual energy to create the life that we want funneling sexual energy into creation has been done. Most people are doing it unconsciously but it is something that you can consciously utilize and and at times in life I think collectively there.
18:34.83
calltocourage
Listen.
18:43.18
calltocourage
Threat.
18:52.16
Adam
Been maybe a more conscious understanding of how to do that.
18:59.43
calltocourage
You spoke I think on social media about your time at sex camp. Um, how was that experience for you and what did you learn from that.
19:07.62
Adam
Um, it was great sex camp being Ista or the international school of temple arts and um, sort of a sexual healing tantra um, conscious Relating. Ah week-long retreat that I went to and I definitely did a couple podcasts I have a podcast called the deep dive with Adamroa that I did a couple episodes explaining ah my experience and and in some detail. Um, yeah, and um.
19:23.70
calltocourage
And again.
19:35.30
calltocourage
Ah, cool I'll check those article.
19:39.84
Adam
And I did a master class that I think you're referring to what I learned at sex camp and um, because because that's what our facilitator was jokingly calling. It was. We're all at sex camp to learn to learn about this stuff and I found that by the time I went there. I had been five months celibate and I had been also studying tantra to various degrees on and off for maybe six or seven years and so I thought I was pretty familiar with that world and i. Was really blown away by the value that I got from being in the practice of it to put myself in a space where I got to see in real time. Some of my fears and my insecurities and got to for me.
20:22.22
calltocourage
Sky listening.
20:35.73
Adam
Perhaps the biggest learning was how healing my sexual energy could be because previously as someone who had been the victim of sexual abuse at a young age I had associated sexual energy as being dangerous.
20:52.51
calltocourage
And.
20:54.27
Adam
And something that could cause a lot of pain and to so flip that and experience my sexual energy being exchanged in ways that were very healing for the women I exchanged with um. Was was very powerful for me.
21:18.30
calltocourage
What was your ah choice prior to going into that to to walk the path of celibacy. What was the intention that you set behind making that choice.
21:29.10
Adam
Well I had been in relationships for quite some time I was in a 10 year monogamous relationship and then um, very quickly after that got into another 1 year and then. Um, I thought I was going to be single finally after that one ended but covid happened and suddenly dating at the very beginning of it. There was no dating. Everyone had no idea what was going on and so and then I got into a relationship during. Um, Twenty Twenty um and so I felt like I had basically been in relationship more or less for twelve years straight from the ages of 23 until I was basically 35 and.
22:15.81
calltocourage
Richard.
22:19.95
Adam
After that third relationship ended and there was a breakup I decided that I was going to give myself an entire year of not being in relationship to really force myself to um view dating differently.
22:28.13
calltocourage
So okay. Is.
22:38.86
Adam
Um I guess up until that point I had seen dating as the thing you do to find your next relationship and I just I didn't want to just habitually find myself in these relationships and so by taking a year to.
22:44.77
calltocourage
Okay.
22:58.23
Adam
Take relationship off the table as an option but not completely take dating off the table. It forced me actually to redefine what I thought dating was and it forced me to explore what it would look like to. Tell women that I'm interested in that I actually am unavailable for monogamous partnership and to force myself to explore what it could look like to be sexually engaged with someone knowing. That I didn't want it to move any like into romantic partnership and therefore changing the way that I'd always even explored sexually so it was huge and I during that year just was in a state of listening. And at a certain point I knew I needed to be celibate I I thought that 2021 was going to be the year that I finally got to be single and go and have wild orgies and and. And be sort of a conscious fuck boy or something like have that experience that I never thought I had in my twenty s but what ended up happening is is that year was so much more about me and what it meant to be alone and what it meant to be celibate and.
24:31.19
Adam
Um, even though I for example, only had sex with one woman for 10 years I was having regular sex for 10 years I never I never actually went through any periods of real celibacy. Um, and so.
24:37.35
calltocourage
Letter. And.
24:46.69
Adam
Even just to explore that and to explore what it looked like to connect to my own energy sexually and it was funny because for a while it felt like I broke my sexual energy I felt uninspired I felt as if I didn't I wasn't attracted to to. Anyone I'd had no interest in dating I I didn't care to sleep with anyone and the celibacy almost I thought I broke something and um and it was just sort of a reset and and my it was like a reboot. If I hit restart on a computer and it just had to restart itself a little bit as I came into my own and so um, I'm actually a huge proponent now of celibacy as a reset I think probably ninety days is is my recommendation for anyone listening to this that.
25:24.72
calltocourage
Um, okay.
25:41.97
Adam
That feels a call to it what can happen in ninety days on an energetic level and and physically when you allow yourself to reset sexually like that is really huge.
25:53.72
calltocourage
Thank you for sharing that in them in that dating reset where you were taking a look at ah how you reframe dating was that you saying you were allowing yourself to be honest with the people that you were connecting with to say I want to be. Intimate with you but I don't want to move it to monogamous partnership is that what you are saying like just owning your desire to do instead of like I'm connecting with you. Maybe this is Relationship. You're just saying listen I'm not going to be a relationship but I do want to be intimate.
26:14.80
Adam
Oh yeah.
26:23.72
Adam
Totally absolutely and that was that's a thing that so many guys are afraid to have that conversation I was afraid to have that conversation initially because I didn't want to be perceived. There's sort of this vilification of the Playboy the the vilification of the guy who only wants sex. But. There are plenty of there are plenty of women who also only want sex or there are plenty of women who are available for a a sexual dynamic and okay, knowing that it's it's not going to go there I will say that I think it's far less than men.
26:43.34
calltocourage
Ah.
26:59.26
calltocourage
Okay, yet.
27:01.42
Adam
In in my experience I think that women part of it is biologically um in terms of how there's a predisposition for for partnership in that way. Um I Also think that the fact that the act of sex takes place inside of a woman's body and outside of a man's body. Also.
27:10.21
calltocourage
Yeah.
27:21.16
Adam
Plays into that I think there's some societal conditioning around um slut shaming and and the masculine feeling a need for sort of um glorification of a guy who can get a lot of girls or whatever. There's a lot that can play into that but I do think.
27:35.60
calltocourage
And.
27:39.37
Adam
I Do think that um for me initially it was difficult because I felt as if I was going to be judged for having that but I had to come to an owner a place of ownership around my own truth which was.
27:47.45
calltocourage
And.
27:56.13
Adam
Yeah I actually want to have sex with women and I am unavailable for partnership in ah in a monogamous partnership. So um, I'm going to have to figure out how to communicate that and I think a lot of and that was very helpful.
28:02.90
calltocourage
Rat.
28:13.98
Adam
For me to have to learn how to communicate that because I did not I think a lot of men that I found and I coach a lot of men. So I think a lot of them are scared that if they share that desire that truth. That the woman is not going to want anything to do with them anymore that it's going to sort of end. It closes the door and so I understand that but then my question is always so that means though that your if your truth fully expressed is not actually.
28:34.60
calltocourage
That it closes the door. Yeah.
28:51.66
Adam
What that woman wants and if that woman were to sleep with you. It would actually be because of a pretense in her mind that's different from your truth and I fully believe that any actions that we take out of alignment with our truth are going to lead us. Off course from what is our highest potential outcome that we truly desire and so there gets to be a point where as a man I get to say I'm going to express my truth and if and that's going to give her.
29:12.63
calltocourage
Man.
29:24.79
Adam
Which is an act of love because it gives her the freedom of choice to decide if her truth is in alignment with mine and if if and believe me there were several conversations I had about this. Um and the the women were like no I'm not I'm not interested in that. You know if if you're not available for more I I don't want to pursue this any further and that sucked but the other alternative is where we start leading women on the other alternative is where feelings get really hurt and there's unmet expectations. And that's where we ultimately end up causing wounding and trauma that on the other end as a man I have to I'm on the receiving end of those projections and I'm on the end of needing to help heal those wounds that were caused. By the men who were ah didn't have the courage to express their truth very openly and give that woman the freedom of choice.
30:28.90
calltocourage
It is such a rich topic bro and I'm so glad that you have articulated it so well because it's been. This theme has been so strong for me in my life like my ability to get my needs. Met has always been driven by some strategy that's been solely focused on me. Also wrapped up in a story of not wanting to hurt the other person's feelings so where I feel that I might be connecting with a woman who wants more than I'm able to show up for in the past there's a version of me that would just say well let's see how this goes knowing that I'm not fully in for partnership in order to get my needs met and in that moment like you said. It's disconnected from my highest truth. There are already unmet expectations in that moment through what has not been said and yeah I've over the last couple of years been really focused on cultivating exactly what my desires are and. Yeah, had beautiful reflections back from the times that I've actually been with someone and actually stood in that difficult moment. It felt difficult to say hey I just want to be with you for the next few weeks because I'm in this city and it feels amazing to be connected with you but I'm getting on an airplane in a week three weeks time and I don't see us being long term partners. And sometimes that's closed the door for me, but there have been times when like you said that level of clarity is the most kind you can be to the person that you're connecting with. And yeah, there's nothing more sexy than radical honesty I think.
31:53.75
Adam
Yeah, and ultimately it's if the reason you're hiding that truth from a woman is because you are afraid that she won't say yes to sleeping with you. Then? What's really underneath that is your you are valuing your desire for sex above her well-being and I think that the.
32:25.53
calltocourage
Ah.
32:28.79
Adam
That should never be like tell me how far how that's any I mean this is this going to sound pretty crazy but it's not it's on the spectrum of rape in my mind because from that definition of. I am valuing my desire for sex above her. Well-being. There's ah a huge spectrum to hiding the fact that you you don't want to be in a monogamous relationship to raping someone but when you remove that freedom of choice from from them.
32:48.87
calltocourage
And.
33:04.94
Adam
You are On. You are now on that spectrum and I feel like that spectrum is we have a choice as Men. We have a choice to to avoid being on there and giving. These women an opportunity to have their voice be heard and by the way there still may be something in between that right? like there still be maybe a hey I'm down to play and I'm down to have intimacy. But I'm not willing to have penetrative sex because I reserve that for partnership. Great. You now have something that that you can decide now hey is is do I Want to do that am I open to that and that is where. Our self-control. That's where our where our willpower that's where our integrity all comes into play and as a man if you do not have control over your willpower. You're um I think you're missing what it means to really be a warrior to be to be um. Someone who is in mastery of self.
34:21.32
calltocourage
Yeah I agree and I think there's also a level of nuance that comes from that and which may not necessarily be directly articulated like I've been in connections in the past where it's like I'm not so sure what it is that this person wants and I haven't clearly expressed where my own. Relationship requirements are or what my direct desires are but we connect anyway and there's I think a level of mastery that comes from recognizing the sacredness of every single connection that you get into and valuing it enough to be very clear about your desires and your boundaries upfront in a way that gives the other person. All the information to be able to make the the choice that really finds a match for whatever is a match for them in that particular Moment. Ah.
35:04.20
Adam
Yeah, well said.
35:08.21
calltocourage
I want to ask about your celibacy practice so you spent did you say six months five months being celibate five months m
35:15.90
Adam
Five months well a little bit more I guess a little bit more than five months because but I went to ista five months celibate.
35:24.60
calltocourage
Cool in that in that time are you cultivating your sexual energy and running that energy by yourself through like a self-pleasuring practice or are you completely disconnected from your sexual energy during that time.
35:39.27
Adam
Ah, both. There was a time there was a period of time where I felt really disconnected and then as part of wanting to reconnect it I Intentionally then started to have ah reconnection practices. Um the the primary of which was just. I would breathe my sexual energy into each of my chakras every morning before getting out of bed so it was just those are some of the ways in which I personally have found to to create discipline for myself is through things like you can't get out of bed until you do this.
36:02.34
calltocourage
Is.
36:13.61
calltocourage
Okay.
36:14.71
Adam
You know, like giving myself, you can't go to bed until you do this things like that are very helpful for me and um so there was it was it was definitely more than thirty days but there was ah and I would say it took between ten and twenty minutes to do and I would just. Breathe my sexual energy and pull it up into each of my chakras. Um, every single morning before getting out of bed and that was a very intentional practice to connect again to my sexual energy.
36:48.43
calltocourage
Yeah I Think that's so good because I want to just like highlight that for anybody considering and like a ah process of going celerate is not to completely disconnect from your sexual energy completely but to keep activating your sexual energy but not sharing it. It. Outside of yourself. So like you were doing. You're cultivating that energy and keeping it with yourself. But you're not suppressing your sexual energy for the time that you're celibate.
37:11.96
Adam
Yeah I think there's ah, a very big different difference and I think that if I were to overall describe celibacy I think there could be sometimes it could be valuable to to allow yourself to just have maybe a week or something where you just? Okay, no. Let let the sexual energy disspay. Let it just be for a while. But then I think the real power of celibacy is about developing a relationship to your sexual energy celibacy is not about disconnecting from your your sexual energy I think that.
37:30.90
calltocourage
Is.
37:45.42
calltocourage
Thank you.
37:48.16
Adam
The real power in it is to um, know it more deeply and to know it more deeply requires that not requires but is easier when it is um. Not entangled and enmeshed with the sexual energy of someone else.
38:06.22
calltocourage
So good. So good bro. What are some of your other practices that you that you stick by in the morning before you get out of bed. What are some of the things you focus on in your evening practice.
38:19.76
Adam
Um I don't have any before I get out of bed now at this stage. Ah but my mornings are um about getting into the sun. So that's a ah, really big one for me I'm now taking my morning Meditations um out into.
38:28.53
calltocourage
Okay.
38:37.78
Adam
Now that I'm in Miami and its sun is generally shining. Um I'll be out at eight thirty in the morning. Um actually sitting in in the morning sun and letting the sun hit my body you know shirtless in shorts just letting the sun hit my body um early in the morning.
38:51.23
calltocourage
Nice.
38:57.15
Adam
I always do a bit of of movement connecting to my body whether that's stretching um or a little bit of dancing or something to just open up my body awaken my body for a while I was doing breath work whether that was. 15 or 20 minutes of it or just you know fifty breaths. Whatever it was but just to open myself up and then I have a journaling practice that is a very big part of my life and I've been working these days on creating more.
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calltocourage
15
39:32.22
Adam
I'm I'm in a period of really expanding as an entrepreneur and and within my own business going from a solopreneur and as a coach who has clients and different things and occasionally ah launches things to actually um, building out the the business. Of it and creating the systems and so that is going to be an expression of myself first and foremost so I've been giving myself a little bit more structure and systems to um, creating to do lists every morning like really structuring out my to do list and really looking at scheduling and utilizing a calendar more and looking and having. Um, monthly visions and and yearly visions and setting goals for a long time I didn't actually set any goals I I knew what I wanted to do and I just did it and so based on the seasons of my life I adjust my routines to to. Ah. Like up there was a previous season. For example, when I was connecting to my sexual energy again that I went really deep into physical and so I would spend an hour every morning doing um, self myofacial release I don't know if you're familiar with that where you're really like rolling you take like a lacrosse ball and you're putting it into your muscles and.
40:36.77
calltocourage
Okay, yet yep bip.
40:45.21
Adam
Yeah, and so doing that for like an hour every morning and just allowing the stuck energy physically to be moved so it just kind of depends on on the season I'm in.
40:46.61
calltocourage
Well.
40:55.80
calltocourage
So good. What ah, let's get into the conversation around them creative entrepreneurship because I think that's a theme that you're that you're cultivating in your life at the moment and I've heard you speak about it before. What does that mean to you and what does ah what does that look like as you installed into your life I've heard you speak about some of the resistance that you've had in owning the um yeah, the desire to want to build. A 8 figure business or whatever those goals are like what is that resistance coming up for you and what is your path around what it is that you're wanting to create.
41:29.83
Adam
Yeah, so um, I became a millionaire at 33 ah when I essentially got a I had a client that paid me $1000000 for a one- on one a year of one- on one coaching and when that happened. I ah, it really kind of blew the roof off of sort of the the 1 on one coaching world for me I went oh wow this is now like what am I supposed to do now do I is it. Do I only coach people for $1000000 is it supposed to be a million and one now like.
42:06.41
calltocourage
Um I.
42:07.63
Adam
Like how do you grow? How do you keep growing at that that stage and I um and I took many years I think to get clear on a number of different parts of myself first and foremost that that.
42:22.29
calltocourage
Nation.
42:27.80
Adam
Money what it provided me was an opportunity to go really deep? Inwardly um, in a lot of ways and and fuel things and fund things and I poured into myself at a really deep level and ultimately. Through depression and healing my my sexual wound and ptsd and all of this stuff that that I I went through I started to ask the question. What do I think it really could help people like what could could really help people and I don't mean some people I mean all people. Is there something I believe that could universally help everyone because like we said there is a million types of of yoga and breath work in plant medicines and I don't believe any of them work for everyone I've tried so many of them. There's some types of meditation I really don't like there's some types of breathwork. That's not my favorite and they're. There are definitely plant medicines that aren't for everybody so what is it that I think could work for everyone and I came down to this fundamental belief which is that I believe that people with some form of creative expression in their life will be happier.
43:39.13
calltocourage
Okay.
43:40.70
Adam
It doesn't mean that you'll be happy. It just means you'll be happier whether that's 5% or that's 50% if you have creative expression as a part of your life. You will be happier and I believe that to be for everyone I don't believe there's an exception I think that I really do for me personally believe that to be a fundamental truth of.
43:43.81
calltocourage
This night.
44:00.67
Adam
Us as human beings and so having come to that through some really deep introspection and and pausing everything like I pause my online community I stopped taking one-on-one clients at the beginning of this year I took months and I just sat with what do I in in an era.
44:01.20
calltocourage
Listen. And.
44:19.40
Adam
Where everyone with an Instagram is a life coach and in an era now where we have chat Gpt and this ai that's gonna make it easier than ever for people to just create content and put it out and there's there's gonna be so much noise. Even more than we have now going out into the space telling people I can help you be happier and let me help you heal and all of this stuff and so for me I really felt it was important to not fall into the trap of just charging more and more money to to work.
44:38.22
calltocourage
And a half class.
44:57.91
Adam
With me, you know after the the million dollars just like what am I supposed to do here. Um, and really get to what is the simplest thing that I believe would work for everyone and that once I got there and the the reason why I'm sharing it from this perspective is I think everyone should get there.
45:00.92
calltocourage
And hang.
45:16.68
Adam
I think I think for all of you entrepreneurs for everyone listening get to what is the simplest thing that you think could help the the people you really want to help for me. It was I Want to know.
45:31.74
calltocourage
Um.
45:33.68
Adam
What's the thing that could help the most amount of people and and what is that and from there now What is the business around that because I think my ability to jump on this podcast For example is because I'm not.
45:35.15
calltocourage
Type.
45:51.88
Adam
Working 80 hour weeks to pay my rent I I have the ability to come on here and do this I don't have to go and and you know I'm not working at a restaurant or something where where um, all my hours are taken um and I can do something like this and um.
45:54.81
calltocourage
Um, rat.
46:05.78
calltocourage
Lessons.
46:09.25
Adam
All of right now in the month of April I'm doing a poem a day that's kind of my own personal challenge to to to reconnect to my creativity is every single day I've committed to writing a poem and sharing it on social media some of these poems take me more than 3 hours they there. It's a huge energetic commitment.
46:14.15
calltocourage
I've seen that so good.
46:28.44
Adam
I'm not monetizing it. There's Nothing. You know what? I mean I didn't I didn't make a group and need people's emails or like this is just me for myself but also hoping it inspires other people I get to do that. Is there going to be roi on that Absolutely because I have a social media following in different things. But I don't know what that is yet. I'm not trying to figure it out I'm not I'm not I just wanted to do this and wanted to put it out for myself and for others and what allows me to do that is I have the money banked to be able to do that and I think that that's important as as.
47:01.90
calltocourage
Ah.
47:05.78
Adam
The spiritual community. Whatever we want to call it. Um that we remove any stigma and any sort of negative connotations. We have around making money. It's important.
47:14.56
calltocourage
10
47:17.56
Adam
For people who want to do good in the world to have more money because there's a lot of people who are doing really shitty things in the world who definitely want money and where we put our attention where our focus goes energy flows if you decide you want to make more money you will find ways to make more money and I want people with good intentions. To have a desire for more money.
47:39.91
calltocourage
So you're going to be supporting people to connect to their creativity while supporting them to perhaps build an entrepreneurial team or or offer around what it is that they're doing is that sort of how you see this unfolding or you're still in the exploration about what it is that you're going to create.
47:57.91
Adam
I'm I'm creating so I have an online community called the create community. Um, and I'm going to be relaunching that community in its totality probably September first and that community is is going to be low cost. It's going to be.
48:07.89
calltocourage
10
48:15.75
Adam
I don't know something around. Don't hold me to this but something around thirty bucks a month like a dollar a day and that's just going to be a really amazing place for people to go and have some structure to create I'm going to give a monthly prompt I'm going to have.
48:18.97
calltocourage
Okay.
48:32.84
Adam
Some um journaling questions and pdfs and we're going to have community events and showcases with prizes to really celebrate people creating and it's going to be this amazing community to be surrounded by people who are using creativity as a path for personal growth and. I would make it free except I don't think people value things as much when they're free and it is important for people to actually put some form of energy in there. Um, so that they value it more and they feel like this is something I'm paying for so that they will participate. That's really what it is and so.
48:53.90
calltocourage
I agreed.
49:07.65
Adam
That's going to be the the first level of this and then the second level of this is something that I'm launching um in June first and foremost which is the creative cocoon and the create cocoon is a chance for people who are. Wanting what you just said people who are wanting to take their creativity to the next level people who are wanting to understand how to create higher quality stuff people who are wanting to understand how to translate um their creativity to.
49:42.57
Adam
Audience more effectively people who are wanting to understand how they could utilize their creative expressions as a way to generate leads as a way to build social media fault like all of that is going to be part of what I call the create cocoon and that's going to be something.
49:54.69
calltocourage
And.
50:02.90
Adam
That I launch the initial beta in June first and and I think I'm only I'm going to limit that probably to 30 people so I don't know when this actually airs I didn't ask you that but um, for people who are wanting to be a part of that they're probably going to need to get. Ah, hold in me pretty quickly because I that those 30 spots will go really fast.
50:24.29
calltocourage
Awesome. I'm going to make sure that this gets out in line with that so that we can support that launch because I think it's it's really really powerful what you're doing and yeah, we need more people connected to their creative muse and being able to be received and get paid for it. Allows them to keep doing it and so yeah, bro, thank you for for doing that work. So 1 last question. What is something that you see in your life at the moment where you're being called to step up like ah, ah, call it a call to courage. What's the 1 thing that you're being called to now that's requiring you to push above and beyond and step into a growth edge that you've been called to.
50:58.79
Adam
Business everything that I was just sharing with you everything that I was just sharing with you is the vision and to to be a match to that vision to be a match to a.
51:06.81
calltocourage
This is.
51:15.47
Adam
Creative community that has more than 10000 members to to be a match to someone who has an 8 figure reliable business ecosystem. Not just someone who launches a program here and there but has it all, um, created and built out. There are things that I need to shift including some of my money mindset I've been noticing some of my own fears and insecurities and stuff come up around money I've been um, finding fears around failure I've been finding the part of me that has um. Gotten lazy with my organizational skills. There's a part of me that can see how I'm going to have to become better as a leader. There's there's so much that's currently requiring courage to step into because i. I haven't done it before and therefore there's a part of me in the back of my mind that wonders if I can and every single day through the morning routines through everything we've talked about every single day is a is me saying I can do this. I am choosing to do this I am taking action to do this and trusting that whatever the results might be it is for my own evolution.
52:38.12
calltocourage
That little last monologue there is something I feel like we could spend another hour talking about because there's so many things in there the money story the failure story. The yeah, what it what it requires us to be in order to step into this new version of ourselves and I didn't even get to. Half of the questions that I've seen you talk about specifically around manifestation which I fucking love. And yeah, and we only have a limited time today. So bro I just want to say? Thank you for the work that you're doing and the magic that you're sharing with the world I appreciate you taking the time to. To drop in and share your magic with with our audience and yeah, just in closing where can people connect with you if they want to find out more about Adam Rower
53:23.51
Adam
Yeah, thank you Gareth It's been a pleasure to drop in with you and um, the places that people can find me adamroa.com a damr o a I have a lot of online real estate and free places that people can connect with me which are. 2 podcasts the deep dive with Adam Roa I also have your too much with Adam and Taylor I co-host with a friend Taylor Simpson and that that one's really taboo in a lot of ways we go into a lot of sexual subjects and different things and there's short 22 minute episodes um and then I have things like a free weekly newsletter that goes out every week ah covering consciousness creativity and community I have a free text message community where I send out journaling prompts and little bits of insights and wisdom that I'm learning throughout the week there's a lot of that. So if you go to my Instagram Adam Roa you can actually see my linktree the link in the bio and you can find all of that stuff there.
54:19.70
calltocourage
So good brother I'm looking forward to connecting with you in person at some point in the future and thank you again for your time and your generosity I Really appreciate it man.
54:30.70
Adam
You're welcome. Thanks for having me. Thank you everybody for listening.
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calltocourage
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